[Koha-bugs] [Bug 39949] Control of authorities subjects VS authors

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[Koha-bugs] [Bug 39949] Control of authorities subjects VS authors

2025-05-21 Thread bugzilla-daemon--- via Koha-bugs
https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=39949

--- Comment #4 from Félix Jutras  ---
(In reply to Katrin Fischer from comment #3)
> The thesaurus linked to a field in bibliographic tells Koha that the field
> is authority controlled.
> 
> I am suggesting to change the configuration for the fields (100, 110, 111,
> 700, 710, 711) you don't want to use authorities with. The label for the
> setting you need to change is "Thesaurus". It contains the authority type
> it's linked to. If you remove that, the fields will be just clear text like
> other fields.

Putting more control over usage of Authorities dosenthave realationship with
thesaurus. Theres 3 levels of control the first is no control, the second is
light control that will block $9 with thesaurus and the third is stric that
will block all the zone with thesaurus. But without a thesaurus it will still
apply a link with the authorities and create one. So i still have an authority
created. And i dont want any authoirities to be created for authors. But i want
the possibility of creating a authority directly for subjects and evantually
pass to strict control. For taht i need to change parameters but those
parameters apply on subjects and authors which I dont want. So that why i'm
suggesting that there's a division, in the paramerters of authorities control,
between authors and subject.

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[Koha-bugs] [Bug 39949] Control of authorities subjects VS authors

2025-05-21 Thread bugzilla-daemon--- via Koha-bugs
https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=39949

--- Comment #7 from Félix Jutras  ---
(In reply to Katrin Fischer from comment #6)
> (In reply to Félix Jutras from comment #5)
> > (In reply to Katrin Fischer from comment #3)
> > > The thesaurus linked to a field in bibliographic tells Koha that the field
> > > is authority controlled.
> > > 
> > > I am suggesting to change the configuration for the fields (100, 110, 111,
> > > 700, 710, 711) you don't want to use authorities with. The label for the
> > > setting you need to change is "Thesaurus". It contains the authority type
> > > it's linked to. If you remove that, the fields will be just clear text 
> > > like
> > > other fields.
> > 
> > So what i want is linkage for subjects but not for authors. But according to
> > how the parameters are done its eighter you have linkage for both or none.
> 
> I don't think that is true. For example it's common in other countries to
> use authorities for series. In Germany we don't have that concept. And we
> just remove the setting in the frameworks for the fields involved.
> 
> The fields I listed are for authors etc. not subjects. Have you at least
> tried to change the configuration for those as I suggested?
> 
> You can see the setting I mean on the screenshot here:
> https://koha-community.org/manual/latest/en/html/administration.html#editing-
> a-marc-subfield
> 
> "Thesaurus: means that the value is linked to the authority catalog of the
> selected category. Authority categories are managed in the Authority types
> section." 
> 
> I am suggesting to remove the link for those you don't want authorities for.

The fact is even if i dont have a thesaurus it still linking to an authorities
and/or creating automaticly an authorities. But i can change some parameter
that dosent do that at all. But it will not do it for subject. What I want to
obtain in the en is Fully no control for authors so no link  no automatically
crete authorities. And i want authomatically created authorities and linkage
for subjects. So its in the parameter section but it will applies for all
authorities which are subjects and authors. So if I put one element it will be
on all. What you told me dosent have any impact on the results i'm seeking. So
tahts why a division between those two types of authorities would be grand in
the parameter section. I want to be able to say link me a subject authorities
in zones 600 and create them automatically. and int the zones 100 and 700 DO
NOT link and DO NOT create automaically.

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[Koha-bugs] [Bug 39949] Control of authorities subjects VS authors

2025-05-21 Thread bugzilla-daemon--- via Koha-bugs
https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=39949

--- Comment #6 from Katrin Fischer  ---
(In reply to Félix Jutras from comment #5)
> (In reply to Katrin Fischer from comment #3)
> > The thesaurus linked to a field in bibliographic tells Koha that the field
> > is authority controlled.
> > 
> > I am suggesting to change the configuration for the fields (100, 110, 111,
> > 700, 710, 711) you don't want to use authorities with. The label for the
> > setting you need to change is "Thesaurus". It contains the authority type
> > it's linked to. If you remove that, the fields will be just clear text like
> > other fields.
> 
> So what i want is linkage for subjects but not for authors. But according to
> how the parameters are done its eighter you have linkage for both or none.

I don't think that is true. For example it's common in other countries to use
authorities for series. In Germany we don't have that concept. And we just
remove the setting in the frameworks for the fields involved.

The fields I listed are for authors etc. not subjects. Have you at least tried
to change the configuration for those as I suggested?

You can see the setting I mean on the screenshot here:
https://koha-community.org/manual/latest/en/html/administration.html#editing-a-marc-subfield

"Thesaurus: means that the value is linked to the authority catalog of the
selected category. Authority categories are managed in the Authority types
section." 

I am suggesting to remove the link for those you don't want authorities for.

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[Koha-bugs] [Bug 39949] Control of authorities subjects VS authors

2025-05-21 Thread bugzilla-daemon--- via Koha-bugs
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--- Comment #5 from Félix Jutras  ---
(In reply to Katrin Fischer from comment #3)
> The thesaurus linked to a field in bibliographic tells Koha that the field
> is authority controlled.
> 
> I am suggesting to change the configuration for the fields (100, 110, 111,
> 700, 710, 711) you don't want to use authorities with. The label for the
> setting you need to change is "Thesaurus". It contains the authority type
> it's linked to. If you remove that, the fields will be just clear text like
> other fields.

So what i want is linkage for subjects but not for authors. But according to
how the parameters are done its eighter you have linkage for both or none.

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[Koha-bugs] [Bug 39949] Control of authorities subjects VS authors

2025-05-21 Thread bugzilla-daemon--- via Koha-bugs
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--- Comment #3 from Katrin Fischer  ---
The thesaurus linked to a field in bibliographic tells Koha that the field is
authority controlled.

I am suggesting to change the configuration for the fields (100, 110, 111, 700,
710, 711) you don't want to use authorities with. The label for the setting you
need to change is "Thesaurus". It contains the authority type it's linked to.
If you remove that, the fields will be just clear text like other fields.

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[Koha-bugs] [Bug 39949] Control of authorities subjects VS authors

2025-05-21 Thread bugzilla-daemon--- via Koha-bugs
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--- Comment #2 from Félix Jutras  ---
(In reply to Katrin Fischer from comment #1)
> Have you tried re-configuring your frameworks and removing the Thesaurus for
> the fields you don't want authority control for?

The problem is not related to thesaurus. Its about linkage and control of
authorities. I dont want any links for authors and I want for subjects. For
that i need to put strict control of authorities so it will oblagtory to take a
subjecs from the authority thesaurus associated. If I put such a control i will
have to put thesaurus on authors whi I don't want. And I dont any control for
the authors. So that why I think there should be a separation between
authorities for subjec and for authors.

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[Koha-bugs] [Bug 39949] Control of authorities subjects VS authors

2025-05-21 Thread bugzilla-daemon--- via Koha-bugs
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--- Comment #1 from Katrin Fischer  ---
Have you tried re-configuring your frameworks and removing the Thesaurus for
the fields you don't want authority control for?

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