[Bug 136900] New workbook spreadsheet created LTR despite Calc UI being RTL
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=136900 Buovjaga changed: What|Removed |Added Status|UNCONFIRMED |RESOLVED Resolution|--- |INVALID --- Comment #20 from Buovjaga --- Closing per comment 15. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.
[Bug 136900] New workbook spreadsheet created LTR despite Calc UI being RTL
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=136900 --- Comment #19 from ross adams --- Interesting point about the UI inconsistency—it's definitely something that can affect accessibility for RTL users. I ran into a similar issue while gathering data from a few government tools, especially those that rely on layout orientation. While looking into historical valuations, I found this helpful page on County Property Records: https://browardcountypropertyappraiser.org/ . Interface coherence makes a huge difference when navigating such resources. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.
[Bug 136900] New workbook spreadsheet created LTR despite Calc UI being RTL
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=136900 --- Comment #18 from camelycarter0 --- Interesting catch on the UI behavior—definitely something that could confuse users expecting consistent RTL layout across all components. While dealing with layout mismatches, I was exploring some other tools and came across this helpful resource for https://constructioncalculatorosrs.vercel.app/ strategies that streamline progression planning. Subtle UI inconsistencies like these really highlight the importance of smooth, intuitive design. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.
[Bug 136900] New workbook spreadsheet created LTR despite Calc UI being RTL
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=136900 --- Comment #17 from David Rodriguez --- That's a great point about layout direction—it can really affect usability, especially for multilingual users. If you're looking to align your financial sheets with Canadian tax inputs, this tool might help streamline calculations and ensure consistency with provincial standards: https://helptobuycalculator.vercel.app//. It's especially useful when working with complex income scenarios. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.
[Bug 136900] New workbook spreadsheet created LTR despite Calc UI being RTL
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=136900 Eyal Rozenberg changed: What|Removed |Added Blocks|43808 | Referenced Bugs: https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=43808 [Bug 43808] [META] Right-To-Left and Complex Text Layout language issues (RTL/CTL) -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.
[Bug 136900] New workbook spreadsheet created LTR despite Calc UI being RTL
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=136900 Eyal Rozenberg changed: What|Removed |Added Blocks||162322 Referenced Bugs: https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=162322 [Bug 162322] [META] Right-to-Left (RTL) text layout issues -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.
[Bug 136900] New workbook spreadsheet created LTR despite Calc UI being RTL
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=136900 TBeholder changed: What|Removed |Added CC||[email protected] --- Comment #16 from TBeholder --- (In reply to Eyal Rozenberg from comment #15) > * Sometimes use RTL content in documents (which themselves may also have LTR > content and often do) > ... > Anyway, the UI direction does not, and should not, reflect on the contents > of the document. May (perhaps even most) RTL language users use an LTR UI; > does that mean they want LTR spreadsheets? Not necessarily. Indeed, this would involve the application having to decide how to read an arbitrary pre-existing document. Which of course could be done for convenience (guessing based on fonts, etc), but such functionality should be optional, as it’s inevitably far from foolproof, and most users won’t need it at all. Perhaps as an add-on? > However, there is the question of setting the default direction... Text direction sounds like something that should be controlled via _text style_ property. So, let those interested add a feature request for this. Makes sense. Once the feature itself is implemented, the solution for newly created documents will be straightforward: the correct place to set text style properties would be Default style in the relevant New Document template. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.
[Bug 136900] New workbook spreadsheet created LTR despite Calc UI being RTL
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=136900 --- Comment #15 from Eyal Rozenberg --- > If I am a RTL user, the text I will write will be in a cell RTL There is no such thing as an "RTL user". Users may: * Prefer an RTL-language UI * Sometimes use RTL content in documents (which themselves may also have LTR content and often do) > I think this bug is reporting, in fact, that this option you have mentioned, > should be already RTL for a RTL user interface. And that's a mistake. Anyway, the UI direction does not, and should not, reflect on the contents of the document. May (perhaps even most) RTL language users use an LTR UI; does that mean they want LTR spreadsheets? Not necessarily. In my opinion, this should be resolved as INVALID. However, there is the question of setting the default direction... -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.
[Bug 136900] New workbook spreadsheet created LTR despite Calc UI being RTL
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=136900 --- Comment #14 from Eyal Rozenberg --- (In reply to BogdanB from comment #13) > Eyal, in fact I think the user is correct. I'm not having a factual disagreement with the reporter, so there is no question of correctness. However - it seems that the page style direction setting is _not_ the same as the sheet direction setting, so I've led Ori on a bit of a wild goose chase. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.
[Bug 136900] New workbook spreadsheet created LTR despite Calc UI being RTL
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=136900 --- Comment #13 from BogdanB --- Eyal, in fact I think the user is correct. If I am a RTL user, the text I will write will be in a cell RTL, not LTR. So, I think this bug is reporting, in fact, that this option you have mentioned, should be already RTL for a RTL user interface. I will not mark the bug as New, because I am not an RTL user. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 136900] New workbook spreadsheet created LTR despite Calc UI being RTL
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=136900 --- Comment #12 from BogdanB --- Ori, go to Page - Style - Page tab - Text direction. Should be right to left. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 136900] New workbook spreadsheet created LTR despite Calc UI being RTL
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=136900 --- Comment #11 from ori --- (In reply to Eyal Rozenberg from comment #9) > (In reply to ori from comment #8) > > I'm sorry but i couldn't find any "Format" option on the menu bar if we > > talking on the same thing > > > > If you can show me the specific menu you are talking about in the picture I > > can check it. but so far in the CALC I have not found any "format" option > > not in english nor in hebrew > > Screenshot: https://i.imgur.com/K6rpahy.png OK By your name I assume you understand Hebrew then they translate the "Format" wrongly in the hebrew version. it is set as "עיצוב" Meaning "Design" (for those that do not understand hebrew) Ok now what do you want me to check on that "Format > Page" -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list [email protected] https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 136900] New workbook spreadsheet created LTR despite Calc UI being RTL
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=136900 --- Comment #10 from ori --- (In reply to Eyal Rozenberg from comment #9) > (In reply to ori from comment #8) > > I'm sorry but i couldn't find any "Format" option on the menu bar if we > > talking on the same thing > > > > If you can show me the specific menu you are talking about in the picture I > > can check it. but so far in the CALC I have not found any "format" option > > not in english nor in hebrew > > Screenshot: https://i.imgur.com/K6rpahy.png OK By your name I assume you understand Hebrew then they translate the "Format" wrongly in the hebrew version. it is set as "עיצוב" Meaning "Design" (for those that do not understand hebrew) Ok now what do you want me to check on that "Format > Page" -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list [email protected] https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 136900] New workbook spreadsheet created LTR despite Calc UI being RTL
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=136900 --- Comment #9 from Eyal Rozenberg --- (In reply to ori from comment #8) > I'm sorry but i couldn't find any "Format" option on the menu bar if we > talking on the same thing > > If you can show me the specific menu you are talking about in the picture I > can check it. but so far in the CALC I have not found any "format" option > not in english nor in hebrew Screenshot: https://i.imgur.com/K6rpahy.png -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list [email protected] https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 136900] New workbook spreadsheet created LTR despite Calc UI being RTL
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=136900 --- Comment #8 from ori --- (In reply to Eyal Rozenberg from comment #7) > (In reply to ori from comment #6) > > Please be specific. > > What menu do you mean? > > The Calc menu bar. I'm sorry but i couldn't find any "Format" option on the menu bar if we talking on the same thing If you can show me the specific menu you are talking about in the picture I can check it. but so far in the CALC I have not found any "format" option not in english nor in hebrew -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list [email protected] https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 136900] New workbook spreadsheet created LTR despite Calc UI being RTL
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=136900 --- Comment #7 from Eyal Rozenberg --- (In reply to ori from comment #6) > Please be specific. > What menu do you mean? The Calc menu bar. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list [email protected] https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 136900] New workbook spreadsheet created LTR despite Calc UI being RTL
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=136900 --- Comment #6 from ori --- (In reply to Eyal Rozenberg from comment #5) > (In reply to ori from comment #4) > > I do not understand what you mean when you say "what is the direction > > settings" > > On the menu, choose "Format | Page...". Then please tell me what's the > selected value for the "Text Direction" setting. Please be specific. What menu do you mean? -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list [email protected] https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 136900] New workbook spreadsheet created LTR despite Calc UI being RTL
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=136900 --- Comment #5 from Eyal Rozenberg --- (In reply to ori from comment #4) > I do not understand what you mean when you say "what is the direction > settings" On the menu, choose "Format | Page...". Then please tell me what's the selected value for the "Text Direction" setting. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list [email protected] https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 136900] New workbook spreadsheet created LTR despite Calc UI being RTL
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=136900 --- Comment #4 from ori --- (In reply to Eyal Rozenberg from comment #3) > Can't reproduce this with: > > Version: 7.1.0.3 / LibreOffice Community > Build ID: f6099ecf3d29644b5008cc8f48f42f4a40986e4c > CPU threads: 4; OS: Linux 5.9; UI render: default; VCL: gtk3 > Locale: he-IL (en_IL); UI: he-IL > > What is the direction setting of the Default page style? Can you check? > Perhaps that's the problem. I do not understand what you mean when you say "what is the direction settings" Notice: The problem is happening only when you open new Clac from the Desktop Right Mouse click's menu -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list [email protected] https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 136900] New workbook spreadsheet created LTR despite Calc UI being RTL
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=136900 QA Administrators changed: What|Removed |Added Whiteboard| QA:needsComment| -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list [email protected] https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 136900] New workbook spreadsheet created LTR despite Calc UI being RTL
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=136900 Eyal Rozenberg changed: What|Removed |Added Blocks|112812 |43808 Referenced Bugs: https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=43808 [Bug 43808] [META] Right-To-Left (aka Complex Text Layout) language issues (RTL/CTL) https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=112812 [Bug 112812] [META] Hebrew language-specific RTL issues -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list [email protected] https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
[Libreoffice-bugs] [Bug 136900] New workbook spreadsheet created LTR despite Calc UI being RTL
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=136900 Eyal Rozenberg changed: What|Removed |Added Summary|If you open a new Calc it |New workbook spreadsheet |will open in English|created LTR despite Calc UI |writing mode (left to |being RTL |right) instead of in Hebrew | |writing mode (right to | |left) | -- You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.___ Libreoffice-bugs mailing list [email protected] https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/libreoffice-bugs
