I am not a woman but I have two suggestions about trying to make a less
man-dominated movement.
1. If your advocacy group has or is developing a capacity to help others
directly, look for local active women-led organizations in other areas
of activism where you are. Ask if there is anything your
Hello all,
Recent events have reminded me of the importance of making a conscious effort
to include underrepresented groups in my local advocacy group, including women.
Is there advice any women still on the mailing list can give me to be more
effective in this regard?
Roberto Beltran
LibrePla
On Sun, September 15, 2019 9:07 pm, Eric Schultz wrote:
> None of this anything to do with free software. It has nothing to do with
> the practical response to the PR crisis caused by RMS' continued refusal
> to
> act like a responsible human being.
>
> This entire discussion today proved the worst
On Sun, Sep 15, 2019 at 9:30 PM
wrote:
> > On September 15, 2019 at 2:46 PM Michael Downey wrote:
> >
> >
> > I have not read the commentary articles, nor do I intend to.
michael: this is a high-traffic issue so i will repeat what i linked
to just now.
https://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=14792
My inbox is blowing up with this debate on RMS' and others morals. Can
we return to using this list for it's intended purposes in free software
and move the debate somewhere else?
Thank you
On 9/16/19 5:12 PM, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote:
> On Sun, Sep 15, 2019 at 9:12 PM
> wrote:
>
>> wi
On Sun, Sep 15, 2019 at 9:12 PM
wrote:
> willing." Two two statements are, again, very different. Ongweso
> Jr.'s false paraphrase is about whether the young woman was willing.
> Stallman's is about how, under the circumstances, the young woman might
> have appeared to Minsky to be willing, fo
On Mon, Sep 16, 2019 at 4:06 PM Patrick 'P. J.' McDermott
wrote:
> I'm saddened to see the community rush to corners and tear itself apart
> over this. I really wish that either Stallman would not have even
> touched such a personal and controversial subject or that his words
> would not have b
I have a weird opinion.
I don't exactly follow people.
I'm just following their ideas that I'm convinced of.
So if someone put up two ideas,
one good idea
and one bad idea
I'll follow the good idea.
and send the bad to /dev/null
so Take from RMS the ideas you're convinced of and leave the ones
On 2019-09-16 at 09:54, Caleb Herbert wrote:
> On 09/16/2019 06:54 AM, Patrick 'P. J.' McDermott wrote:
> > Reportedly though, Stallman's views "changed significantly"
> > by 2016 [6], and he confirmed on Saturday that "personal conversations
> > in recent years" have convinced him that sex between
I don't think a situation where many people associate the free software
movement with misogyny and pedophilia is doing the movement any favors. And
that's where we are. I do feel emotionally about this because it is a huge
waste of my time to try and bring new people to this movement and then
later
I'll miss seeing your input on this list.
This thread smells agenda-driven to me and I've avoided reading most of
it for that reason.
I think that censorship is the only goal for these people. The details
of how they get there don't really matter to them, nor the people they
attack.
On Mon,
On Sun, Sep 15, 2019 at 7:54 PM J.B. Nicholson wrote:
> Adrienne G. Thompson wrote:
> > The record on Richard Stallman underscores that he is driven by ethical
> > sensibilities. He's not about to approve of rape anytime soon. So let's
> > just tell rms to shut up about the Epstein matter, not to
On 09/16/2019 06:54 AM, Patrick 'P. J.' McDermott wrote:
> Reportedly though, Stallman's views "changed significantly"
> by 2016 [6], and he confirmed on Saturday that "personal conversations
> in recent years" have convinced him that sex between an adult and a
> child is wrong [7].
Yes, but Stall
On 09/16/2019 05:33 AM, Leah Rowe via libreplanet-discuss wrote:
> Meanwhile, Mr. Gates is funding companies like Monsanto who are
> destroying the planet. And making the world generally a very depressing
> place to live.
I heard Gates directly funded sex trafficking for Epstein.
--
Caleb Herber
I've been an associate member of the FSF since 2012; an attendee of
LibrePlanet every year since 2013; and using, developing, and advocating
for free software longer than that. I have other organizational
affiliations, however I am writing in my personal capacity and opinions
expressed herein are
None of this anything to do with free software. It has nothing to do with
the practical response to the PR crisis caused by RMS' continued refusal to
act like a responsible human being.
This entire discussion today proved the worst of the FSF to be completely
true. I'm pretty much done with this o
i think we know that Epstein was a intelligence agency controlled
person,?? his gifts to
Universities?? have a long trail to donors and purposes AFAICT.
According to other articles I have read: sex, under age, same sex, or
whatever, was
the instrument that sourced the threat that blackmail (muc
If it is true that Stallman called these victims as willing. I entirely agree
with Marry-Anne. The Free Software movement already lacks female support and
these comments will only push more women away. I as a woman who has also
suffered harrassment as a child and as an adult, do not want a leade
On Sun, 2019-09-15 at 13:35 -0400, MARY-ANNE WOLF wrote:
> https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/9ke3ke/famed-computer-scientist-richard-stallman-described-epstein-victims-as-entirely-willing
>
>
> https://medium.com/@selamie/remove-richard-stallman-fec6ec210794
>
>
> I have been a financial suppo
Stallman single handedly spearheaded the entire free software movement
back in the 80s, and he's still going strong even today, talking at
conferences all over the world. He's a man of great integrity who does
what he says and means what he says.
Meanwhile, Mr. Gates is funding companies like Mon
The TR;DR version of my previous mail is this:
Without the FSF, we'd be up shit creek. So please everyone grow the
fuck up and move on, and keep doing wonderful things. This infighting
helps nobody but our enemies.
On Mon, 16 Sep 2019 11:19:26 +0100 Leah
Rowe wrote:
>
> I'm unsubscribing fro
I'm unsubscribing from this list. The FSF has been stagnating a lot
over the years anyway... though I still respect them, and RMS.
But I don't like all this spam, and most of what goes on this list
appears to be spam nowadays :S
Before I do unsubscribe, I'd like to impart some wisdom on you all:
On 09/16/2019 03:23 AM, Dmitry Alexandrov wrote:> Caleb Herbert
wrote:
>> Most people cannot access or afford decent Replicant devices.
>
> No people can access or afford _decent_ Replicant devices: they are
simply nonexistent.
I consider the ancient Galaxy S2 decent.
> A device, listed at http
On 09/16/2019 03:23 AM, Dmitry Alexandrov wrote:
> Caleb Herbert wrote:
>> Most people cannot access or afford decent Replicant devices.
>
> No people can access or afford _decent_ Replicant devices: they are simply
> nonexistent.
I consider the ancient Galaxy S2 decent.
> A device, listed a
Caleb Herbert wrote:
> Most people cannot access or afford decent Replicant devices.
No people can access or afford _decent_ Replicant devices: they are simply
nonexistent.
A device, listed at https://replicant.us (which would _not_ fully work under it
anyway), could be obtained very easily an
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