Re: [libreplanet-discuss] “I don't answer questions from women”

2019-09-24 Thread Aaron Wolf
These issues aren't either/or, they are both. The "virginity" joke is undeniably tied to patriarchy and sexism, and people who are sensitive to those issues are predictably going to have a negative reaction. This is indeed part of the long pattern of uncomfortable issues. That said, there's still

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] “I don't answer questions from women”

2019-09-24 Thread A. Mani
On Wed, Sep 25, 2019 at 3:05 AM Dmitry Alexandrov <321...@gmail.com> wrote: > > That talk was terribly bad: > > https://twitter.com/sh4na/status/1174034117077413889 > > Given how she contrived to paraphrase the ‘Holy Virgin of Emacs’ jest two > messages below [0]: “This was about five minutes bef

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] “I don't answer questions from women”

2019-09-24 Thread Dmitry Alexandrov
"A. Mani" wrote: > On Tue, Sep 24, 2019 at 5:36 AM Aaron Wolf wrote: >> On 2019-09-23 4:39 p.m., A. Mani wrote: >>> In one keynote, RMS's response to a question was "Oh wait you're a woman! I >>> don't answer questions from women." Furthermore there are ill-informed >>> statements on feminism

[libreplanet-discuss] Introductory documetation for free software (was: Easy to understand way of getting a new computer already setup out of the box as close as can be to rms' principles.)

2019-09-24 Thread Dmitry Alexandrov
Thomas Lord wrote: > "Federico Leva (Nemo)" : >> The way I find the answer is usually this: https://www.fsf.org/resources/ >> (third link) → https://www.fsf.org/resources/hw → >> https://www.fsf.org/resources/hw/endorsement/respects-your-freedom → various >> links including

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Apologies

2019-09-24 Thread Adrienne G. Thompson
'Smee: I still think this campaign against RMS was coordinated (call me a conspiracy nut) and that they are accomplishing some of their goals right now. It was very well coordinated with the help of big money! Thanks Adrienne for sticking up for free speech. You're

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Who is making Web usable without nonfree JS and how had FSF tripped them up

2019-09-24 Thread Dmitry Alexandrov
Caleb Herbert wrote: > Speaking of money, where do I donate to get people to reverse engineer a > site's JavaScript? Which site? In general: https://weboob.org. By the way, you might found the fact, that its Debian package have been fallen victim to Molly de Blanc’s (an FSF campaign manager a

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Moving Forward

2019-09-24 Thread MARY-ANNE WOLF
I have no way to confirm the accuracy of the accusations, or any missing context, but here are some sources of specifics in random order https://geekfeminism.wikia.org/wiki/Richard_Stallman https://geekfeminism.wikia.org/wiki/EMACS_virgins_joke https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3087673 https:/

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Apologies

2019-09-24 Thread 'smee via libreplanet-discuss
Adrienne, I feel it's a fine line here as you make good points that i try to keep in mind as well. In this case, the catalyst for my apology was that Aaron emailed me off list and made accurate insights into my replies (that Deb was acting in bad faith, as I did assume that). Aaron only shared his

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Apologies

2019-09-24 Thread Aaron Wolf
Adrienne, that's a valid concern. People shouldn't be walking on eggshells. However, that's a misreading of the case here. This is more like 'Smee realizing on self-reflection that they actually *were* making assumptions and not being as considerate as they wish to be. I don't think this apology wa

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Apologies

2019-09-24 Thread Adrienne G. Thompson
Gee 'Smee: Things are getting a little out of hand. So now guys can't have reasonable arguments with women without feeling like they're being "combative"? Are you afraid someone might call you "sexist"? I didn't see where you said anything objectionable or "combative". Adrienne

[libreplanet-discuss] Apologies

2019-09-24 Thread 'smee via libreplanet-discuss
I was combative in my language with Deb earlier and would like to apologize and say I'll do better in the future. I assumed bad intentions and acted out of irritation. I'll do better in the future to consider that there are real people with real concerns and try not to be combative. _

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Easy to understand way of getting a new computer already setup out of the box as close as can be to rms' principles.

2019-09-24 Thread Thomas Lord
No, that is not what I'm hoping to see. Very few people will ever find those links and fewer still have the knowledge to know how to use that information. Here is a scenario for thought experiment purposes: I have a minor role in Berkeley politics. In this capacity, I sometime

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] non- were you censored too? how to beat it

2019-09-24 Thread Dmitry Alexandrov
John Sullivan wrote: > I'm sorry about this, everyone. Daniel seems to have done some scraping and > compiled a list of addresses on his own, from his libreplanet-discuss > archives. This is the list he's encouraging people to BCC. Well. At least, I hope his list would not be as broken technic

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Moving Forward

2019-09-24 Thread Deb Nicholson
On Tue, Sep 24, 2019 at 12:03 PM 'smee <[1]overthefa...@opengroupware.ch> wrote: Please answer my other questions if you insist there are real people who have had a bad experience with a particular project because of their sex or sexual orientation. Specifics shouldn't be hard

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Moving Forward

2019-09-24 Thread 'smee via libreplanet-discuss
Please answer my other questions if you insist there are real people who have had a bad experience with a particular project because of their sex or sexual orientation. Specifics shouldn't be hard to come up with given the strength of your assertion. Please give specifics. Or address any one of my

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Moving Forward

2019-09-24 Thread Deb Nicholson
On Tue, Sep 24, 2019 at 11:08 AM Paulo Henrique de Lima Santana <[1]pa...@phls.com.br> wrote: Hi Deb, On 24/09/2019 10:13, Deb Nicholson wrote: >It also brought to the center of the conversation, many of the other >times that women have been belittled, writte

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Moving Forward

2019-09-24 Thread Deb Nicholson
On Tue, Sep 24, 2019 at 10:46 AM 'smee <[1]overthefa...@opengroupware.ch> wrote: Quote from you: "The outrage (and demand for new leadership) is coming from real women who have tried to participate in free software and been rebuffed by sexist behavior who f

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Moving Forward

2019-09-24 Thread 'smee via libreplanet-discuss
I also have better things to do than continue a discussion which you have decided to vacate. I considered your points and requested reasonable proof, which I've seen no mention of aside from your email.  I'll assume, based on your response, that the links you provided (since you are vacating the c

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Moving Forward

2019-09-24 Thread Adrienne G. Thompson
On Tue, Sep 24, 2019 at 9:11 AM Deb Nicholson <[1]d...@eximiousproductions.com> wrote: The outrage (and demand for new leadership) is coming from real women who have tried to participate in free software and been rebuffed by sexist behavior who felt that per

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Moving Forward

2019-09-24 Thread 'smee via libreplanet-discuss
Quote from you: "The outrage (and demand for new leadership) is coming from real women who have tried to participate in free software and been rebuffed by sexist behavior who felt that perhaps at this moment they might *finally* be heard." Please give examples giving details of how these people w

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] [Libre-silicon-devel] NLNet Funding Proposals for the Libre RISC-V SoC: call for participation

2019-09-24 Thread Staf Verhaegen
Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton schreef op di 24-09-2019 om 12:16 [+0100]: On Tue, Sep 24, 2019 at 9:55 AM Hagen SANKOWSKI < hs...@posteo.de > wrote: The main difference between AMBI AXI and Wishbone is the streaming capability. AXI can stream data, just with repetition stages, without handsha

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] [non-libre] unsubscribe help, too much Freedom de-tox anybody?

2019-09-24 Thread Konstantinos Boukouvalas
If I do accept to unsubscribe from your coup-list is like I'm accepting your rebellion against FSFE and you as an authority. No sir. You should unsubscribe all you registered yourself to your mailing list. Kindest Regards K. E. BOUKOUVALAS Στις Δευ, 23 Σεπ 2019 στις 10:5

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Moving Forward

2019-09-24 Thread Paulo Henrique de Lima Santana
Hi Deb, On 24/09/2019 10:13, Deb Nicholson wrote: >It also brought to the center of the conversation, many of the other >times that women have been belittled, written off or subjected to >harassment here in free software. I have read a lot of people celebrating Stallman resignation.

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] NLNet Funding Proposals for the Libre RISC-V SoC: call for participation

2019-09-24 Thread Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
On Tuesday, September 24, 2019, Staf Verhaegen <[1]s...@fibraservi.eu> wrote: OK, let me mention I have for my Retro-uC currently nmigen Wishbone code. Great! I use it to make an arbiter between JTAG and the CPU cores on the design (Z80, MOS6502 and Motorola 68000) t

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Easy to understand way of getting a new computer already setup out of the box as close as can be to rms' principles.

2019-09-24 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
The way I find the answer is usually this: https://www.fsf.org/resources/ (third link) → https://www.fsf.org/resources/hw → https://www.fsf.org/resources/hw/endorsement/respects-your-freedom → various links including ,

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] [Libre-silicon-devel] NLNet Funding Proposals for the Libre RISC-V SoC: call for participation

2019-09-24 Thread Staf Verhaegen
Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton schreef op di 24-09-2019 om 13:12 [+0100]: On Tue, Sep 24, 2019 at 1:06 PM Staf Verhaegen < s...@fibraservi.eu > wrote: Have yo guys looked at the pipeline feature of Wishbone B4 ? What is missing the re to make streaming possible ? hagen mentioned (offlist)

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] [Libre-silicon-devel] NLNet Funding Proposals for the Libre RISC-V SoC: call for participation

2019-09-24 Thread Hagen SANKOWSKI
Hello Luke. Sometimes I totally agree with the RMS. The current patent system is garbage, I am also a patentee. But, well, we should avoid patents as often as possible. And yes, ARM already proofs that they like to play the patent card regarding the AMBA AXI bus. I am currently not sure, this

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Moving Forward

2019-09-24 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
For context: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/foundation-list/2009-November/msg00010.html https://stallman.org/saint.html If you never saw the saint IGNUcius routine in person, there are some recordings around. https://archive.org/details/RMS_at_UPD_2015_St_IGNUcius I used to belong to the Roma

[libreplanet-discuss] Unsubscribe please

2019-09-24 Thread Betsy Garrett
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Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Moving Forward

2019-09-24 Thread Adrienne G. Thompson
On Tue, Sep 24, 2019 at 1:36 AM Félicien Pillot <[1]felic...@gnu.org> wrote: > 2) I am unclear as to the motivation for his resignation. I'd like to > know if he voluntarily resigned or if he was urged or forced to > "voluntarily" resign? Look up the definition of "co

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Moving Forward

2019-09-24 Thread Deb Nicholson
On Mon, Sep 23, 2019, 10:28 PM Thomas Lord <[1]l...@basiscraft.com> wrote: > Thank you for raising this. The recent (admittedly misreported) gaff When people launch a press campaign to lie about you and defame you on the basis of a libel, that is not your "gaff". The "gaff" is

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] [Libre-silicon-devel] NLNet Funding Proposals for the Libre RISC-V SoC: call for participation

2019-09-24 Thread Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
hagen, i cookie-cut one of the other proposals, you'll see it here: https://libre-riscv.org/nlnet_2019_wishbone_streaming/ if you want to use that to start from i left some TODO sections, do keep it short, it really does not need much. they can always contact you and ask follow-up questions. if

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] [Libre-silicon-devel] NLNet Funding Proposals for the Libre RISC-V SoC: call for participation

2019-09-24 Thread Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
On Tue, Sep 24, 2019 at 1:06 PM Staf Verhaegen wrote: > Have yo guys looked at the pipeline feature of Wishbone B4 ? What is missing > there to make streaming possible ? hagen mentioned (offlist) that the broadcast mode of wishbone b4 could indeed be used. he'd like to do a write-up / proposal

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] [Libre-silicon-devel] NLNet Funding Proposals for the Libre RISC-V SoC: call for participation

2019-09-24 Thread Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
On Tue, Sep 24, 2019 at 9:55 AM Hagen SANKOWSKI wrote: > The main difference between AMBI AXI and Wishbone is the streaming > capability. AXI can stream data, just with repetition stages, without > handshake signals. So, it would be easier and more sustainable to > bring-up Wishbone to the next l

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] [Libre-silicon-devel] NLNet Funding Proposals for the Libre RISC-V SoC: call for participation

2019-09-24 Thread Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
On Mon, Sep 23, 2019 at 9:48 AM David Lanzendörfer wrote: > > Hi Luke > In order to be truly libre, you've got to remove AXI from the RISC-V > implementation and replace it with TileLink or another bus, which isn't > patented by a company. > Also I would strongly discourage you from using ARM pate