CC: libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org
>>> Subject: Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Skype Replacement?
>>>
>>> The topic of #pidgin on freenode says that audio call is
>>> working on (only) XMPP and not in Windows.
>>>
>>> I asked them and they told
On 12-05-26 07:17 AM, Anthony Papillion wrote:
>> Date: Sat, 26 May 2012 13:05:20 +0200
>> From: lluvia_li...@lavabit.com
>> To: ramana.ku...@gmail.com
>> CC: libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org
>> Subject: Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Skype Replacement?
>>
>
> Date: Sat, 26 May 2012 13:05:20 +0200
> From: lluvia_li...@lavabit.com
> To: ramana.ku...@gmail.com
> CC: libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org
> Subject: Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Skype Replacement?
>
> The topic of #pidgin on freenode says that audio call is
> working o
The topic of #pidgin on freenode says that audio call is
working on (only) XMPP and not in Windows.
I asked them and they told me that using Psi on the Windows part should
work for taking with Pidgin on the GNU/Linux side.
On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 8:15 PM, John Sullivan wrote:
> Ramana Kumar writes:
>
> > Could you add a link to the Skype Replacement LibrePlanet Wiki page on
> > the FSF High-Priority project page?
> >
>
> Will do.
>
How's this project coming along?
> > Also, that page should probably mention Li
On the topic of Skype replacements, I just found out about WebRTC.
E.g., there is http://sipml5.org/ (which works with Chrome Canary) and
I think Mozilla is working on getting WebRTC support into Firefox (so
it should hopefully make it into Iceweasel/Icecat too).
This could dramatically boost the p
Mike Linksvayer writes:
> On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 12:15 PM, John Sullivan wrote:
>> I was told that Lightspark ceased development. Is that not the case?
>
> They released https://launchpad.net/lightspark/trunk/lightspark-0.5.7
> yesterday. Seems active to me --
> https://github.com/lightspark/li
On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 12:15 PM, John Sullivan wrote:
> I was told that Lightspark ceased development. Is that not the case?
They released https://launchpad.net/lightspark/trunk/lightspark-0.5.7
yesterday. Seems active to me --
https://github.com/lightspark/lightspark/commits/master
Mike
Ramana Kumar writes:
> Could you add a link to the Skype Replacement LibrePlanet Wiki page on
> the FSF High-Priority project page?
>
Will do.
> Also, that page should probably mention Lightspark where it talks about Gnash.
>
I was told that Lightspark ceased development. Is that not the case?
Could you add a link to the Skype Replacement LibrePlanet Wiki page on
the FSF High-Priority project page?
Also, that page should probably mention Lightspark where it talks about Gnash.
On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 10:56 PM, John Sullivan wrote:
> Ramana Kumar writes:
>
>> Also I'm not sure why it's
Ramana Kumar writes:
> Also I'm not sure why it's LGPL rather than GPL...
>
Good question, I don't know the answer.
>
>>
>> Ekiga should in theory work for video calls, and use Ogg Theora, and I
>> have had some luck with it when talking to another GNU/Linux user. But
>> cross-platform attempts
On Mon, 2012-05-14 at 12:00 +0200, cryp...@nym.hush.com wrote:
> Ramana,
>
> I had a quit similar issue in a different settings. In our case we
> were looking for a solution for conf-call in a personal context (so
> the financial question was also important) and we need something
> stable and easy
Ramana,
I had a quit similar issue in a different settings. In our case we
were looking for a solution for conf-call in a personal context (so
the financial question was also important) and we need something
stable and easy to use.
Our solution was Mumble-murmur (http://mumble.sourceforge.net/) wh
Alexey Eromenko writes:
> On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 9:41 PM, John Sullivan wrote:
>> Jitsi is the only one that's worked reliably for me for doing video
>> calls, especially when the person on the other end is not using
>> GNU/Linux. I use it through my own Asterisk server.
>>
>
> Does Jitsi suppo
On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 7:41 PM, John Sullivan wrote:
> Jitsi is the only one that's worked reliably for me for doing video
> calls, especially when the person on the other end is not using
> GNU/Linux. I use it through my own Asterisk server.
>
Pity Java sucks so badly on my machine... I don't
On Mon, 14 May 2012 22:40:09 +0300
Alexey Eromenko wrote:
> As for video: look at Google WebM / VP8 - I tested it and it is very
> good video codec.
> OGG Theora has ugly video quality.
I agree that VP8 is nice. However, libtheora 1.2 seems to produce much
better-looking video in some cases than
On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 9:41 PM, John Sullivan wrote:
> Jitsi is the only one that's worked reliably for me for doing video
> calls, especially when the person on the other end is not using
> GNU/Linux. I use it through my own Asterisk server.
>
Does Jitsi support firewall bypass, like Skype ? (a
Jitsi is the only one that's worked reliably for me for doing video
calls, especially when the person on the other end is not using
GNU/Linux. I use it through my own Asterisk server.
However, Jitsi has a serious problem which is that it only uses a
patented codec -- doesn't support Ogg Theora for
Libreplanet may not have the resources but as I said, having a small group
and reaching out to developers would be good. There are a lot of
programmers out there, especially younger ones who want to build up their
resume material and want to work on something that doesn't necessarily
require html/c
On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 3:41 PM, IntrosMedia wrote:
> I'm a Trisquel GNU/Linux user and tried to use Ekiga since I moved from
> proprietary to libre software, but no luck.
>
> Since libre XMPP clients started to support audio calls, I started using
> that and it just works for me. I've used it to
2012/5/14 Ramana Kumar
> Dear LibrePlanet
>
> When I switched to a completely free operating system (Parabola), one
> thing I had to do was remove Skype.
> I had Skype installed because I take Chinese lessons over the internet
> from Chinesepod.com and they recommend using Skype by default (I thi
On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 2:23 PM, Rudolf wrote:
> We should form a project or task group for this and see which free
> software projects are actively working on this. I see some great ideas but
> without a roadmap and developers, not much will be accomplished.
>
Does LibrePlanet have the appropria
We should form a project or task group for this and see which free software
projects are actively working on this. I see some great ideas but without a
roadmap and developers, not much will be accomplished.
Having a bounty or something like kickstarter/crowd-funding setup may help
make these ideas
On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 12:26:39PM +0100, ramana.ku...@gmail.com wrote 3.5K
bytes in 89 lines about:
: Did you try Jitsi on different platforms (e.g. connecting Windows user to
: GNU user)?
Yes, daily. I'm on debian testing with OpenJDK Runtime Environment
(IcedTea6 1.11.1) (6b24-1.11.1-6). I typ
On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 12:22 PM, Alexey Eromenko wrote:
> > Do we have the manpower to solve these problems?
> > If so, where is it?
>
> OSS / community projects start as an one-man-effort.
> Only if you volunteer.
> Just ask some organization (FSF? OSI?) to give you servers later, for
> produc
On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 12:03 PM, Michał 'rysiek' Woźniak
wrote:
> I have a better idea: use primarily protocol names, instead of
> application/project names. XMPP instead of Pidgin. E-Mail instead of
> Thunderbird. See - this works! Diaspora instead of Joindiaspora.com.
> SIP instead of Ekiga.
>
On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 12:21 PM, wrote:
> On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 10:09:14AM +0100, ramana.ku...@gmail.com wrote
> 10K bytes in 204 lines about:
> : only supported up to XP. Looking at the options I guessed Jitsi would be
> a
> : good choice.
> : we try XMPP/Jingle instead of SIP.
>
> Odd. I swi
>
>
> Do we have the manpower to solve these problems?
> If so, where is it?
OSS / community projects start as an one-man-effort.
Only if you volunteer.
Just ask some organization (FSF? OSI?) to give you servers later, for
production use. (data proxy + central registry + VoIP gateway...)
All dev
On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 10:09:14AM +0100, ramana.ku...@gmail.com wrote 10K
bytes in 204 lines about:
: only supported up to XP. Looking at the options I guessed Jitsi would be a
: good choice.
: we try XMPP/Jingle instead of SIP.
Odd. I switched from skype to jitsi a while ago and have found it w
On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 11:16 AM, Michał 'rysiek' Woźniak
wrote:
> Dnia poniedziałek, 14 maja 2012 o 12:08:16 Nikos Roussos napisał(a):
> > I totally disagree with the central registry approach. Federation
> > is always better for preserving freedom.
>
> Federation/decentralisation doesn't have to
Dnia poniedziałek, 14 maja 2012 o 12:46:14 Alexey Eromenko napisał(a):
> I have one GREAT IDEA:
> Trademark enforcement !
Oh my, here we go. -_-'
> Once a good open-source Skype-like project is born, with central
> registry, and firewall bypass, it *should* use it's own trademark
> that defines t
On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 11:30 AM, Robert Martinez wrote:
> My hint would be to try mumble. http://mumble.sourceforge.net/
> It is basically a teamchat application for gamers I believe, and it
> totally depends on having a server, but usually you find some free slots
> very easily. best of all is
I have one GREAT IDEA:
Trademark enforcement !
Once a good open-source Skype-like project is born, with central
registry, and firewall bypass, it *should* use it's own trademark that
defines that forks must re-name themselves.
Call this project "The Unique".
I.e. if a forker wants to change the c
My hint would be to try mumble. http://mumble.sourceforge.net/
It is basically a teamchat application for gamers I believe, and it
totally depends on having a server, but usually you find some free slots
very easily. best of all is that depending on your connection speed you
may get really awes
I had a quit similar issue in a different settings. In our case we
were looking for a solution for both call and conference-call. It was
in a personal context so the financial question was also important
and we needed something stable and easy to use on different OS.
Our solution was Mumble-mu
Dnia poniedziałek, 14 maja 2012 o 12:08:16 Nikos Roussos napisał(a):
> I totally disagree with the central registry approach. Federation
> is always better for preserving freedom.
Federation/decentralisation doesn't have to mean no registry. Look at
Diaspora - there are multiple pods, but I can s
Video calls through xmpp have worked very well for me, at Empathy. Although
i think i haven't test it with Windows users.
I totally disagree with the central registry approach. Federation is always
better for preserving freedom. One word: email.
--
Nikos Roussos
http://autoverse.net
On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 10:50 AM, Alexey Eromenko wrote:
> IMO, Free Software can only compete with proprietary software, if
> there is one central registry "de facto" standard.
> Else you go the standard client/server route, where everyone needs own
> server, needs to configure firewalls, needs
On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 10:55 AM, Alexandre Dulaunoy wrote:
> On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 11:50 AM, Alexey Eromenko
> wrote:
> > I'm not aware of any Free Software Skype replacement. (that's why FSF
> > is calling to write one...)
>
> and what about http://jitsi.org/ Jitsi ?
>
As I mentioned in my
On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 11:50 AM, Alexey Eromenko wrote:
> I'm not aware of any Free Software Skype replacement. (that's why FSF
> is calling to write one...)
and what about http://jitsi.org/ Jitsi ?
--
-- Alexandre Dulaunoy (adulau) -- http://www.foo.be/
--
I'm not aware of any Free Software Skype replacement. (that's why FSF
is calling to write one...)
...
But when trying out VoIP (voice programs) -- you should try it first
yourself, on 2 laptops, or by using virtual machines, such as
VirtualBox (which is Free Software).
IMO It is a bad practice to
Dear LibrePlanet
When I switched to a completely free operating system (Parabola), one thing
I had to do was remove Skype.
I had Skype installed because I take Chinese lessons over the internet from
Chinesepod.com and they recommend using Skype by default (I think they also
allow telephony calls i
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