MOn May 10, 2016 1:39:30 PM AST, wrote:
>On Fri, May 06, 2016 at 06:15:03PM -0500, J.B. Nicholson wrote:
>
>> Alex Jordan wrote:
>> > You're completely missing the above point. What Julien is saying
>> > (correct me if I'm wrong) is that using "GNU" as a brand for
>> > freedom-respecting operating
On Fri, May 06, 2016 at 06:15:03PM -0500, J.B. Nicholson wrote:
> Alex Jordan wrote:
> > You're completely missing the above point. What Julien is saying
> > (correct me if I'm wrong) is that using "GNU" as a brand for
> > freedom-respecting operating systems is valuable even if technically
> > in
(Sorry for top posting)
Currently there are 2 options:
* running a fully Free/Libre system, then accepts hardware runs partially.
* running an half Free/Libre systemthen accept hardware would likely runs
"foolish".
A third option would be to build a complete Free/Libre hardware design cha
I'm "cross-posting" this to trisquel-users and libreplanet-discuss
mailling lists.
So, I made a "counting" on the opinions/votes so far, here is the table:
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. "GNU" SD $Nome G+L "LibreOS"
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On 05/03/2016 06:13 PM, J.B. Nicholson wrote:
Julien Kyou wrote:
Using GNU as a descriptor 'even in the absence of GNU for freedom
respecting distros' feels right to me, its not credit its a brand. GNU =
Freedom, Should be true.
GNU does nothing to stop hackers from porting it to run on nonf
Julien Kyou wrote:
Using GNU as a descriptor 'even in the absence of GNU for freedom
respecting distros' feels right to me, its not credit its a brand. GNU =
Freedom, Should be true.
GNU does nothing to stop hackers from porting it to run on nonfree kernels.
Hence today we have GNU/kWindows (t
For me GNU was one of the guiding lights to freedom. It was a long journey as
the meanings of free and GNU and the terms FOSS and FLOSS were all hazy until I
saw them discussed here on the mailing list.
Thanks for that.
Here is my POV:
Using GNU as a descriptor 'even in the absence of GNU for f
Fabio Pesari wrote:
I think this happens too often, and saying GNU without anything else
reinforces the notion that the only thing the FSF cares about is getting
credited for something they didn't completely build.
Most operating systems include software the distributors didn't write
themselve
On Mon, May 02, 2016 at 16:44:21 -0300, Adonay Felipe Nogueira wrote:
> * Some non-free system distributions are also GNU, so we wouldn't be
> able to call just/only the free ones as "GNU".
We'd still want to call them GNU/Linux, because they are---but also
mention that they're also robbing users
The problem is that, if the term "GNU" is preferred, we might as well
open doors for two things that can make the term not a good choice:
* Some non-free system distributions are also GNU, so we wouldn't be
able to call just/only the free ones as "GNU".
* We might end up advertising non-free syst
On Mon, May 02, 2016 at 15:53:52 +0200, Alexander Berntsen wrote:
> GNU distributions are distributions that use GNU software.
They are in part GNU software, but phrasing it like that makes it seem
like the GNU part of GNU/Linux is only the GNU software. GNU is an
entire operating system, not jus
I once suggested to this group of Brazilians to use the term "free/libre
system [distributions]" for the ones which follow the GNU FSDG (like
Trisquel GuixSD, Replicant, and so), and use "non-free/libre system
[distributions]" for those which don't follow the guidelines (like
Windows, MacOS, RactOS
On 05/02/2016 03:39 PM, Adonay Felipe Nogueira wrote:
> However, this also opens doors for backfiring from open source
> proponents (or even from our own mates, if we replace "operating system"
> with "free system distribution" in the following two phrases), such as:
> "Not every operating system h
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I find myself unable to comprehend what the discussion is about. Free
systems are systems that preserve your four freedoms. GNU
distributions are distributions that use GNU software. Linux
distribution are distributions that use Linux. If there is no
Remember: This topic is about free system distributions (those which are
fully compliant with the GNU Free System Distribution Guidelines).
Some free software activists from Brazil have been doing a
counter-campaign against society's tendency to call GNU+Linux just as
"Linux". Instead of calling t
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