Re: [libreplanet-discuss] programming language package manager

2016-04-24 Thread Fabio Pesari
Just by chance, I came across a seemingly unrelated (and a bit old) article which lists pros and cons of various package managers ([0]). According to it, PyPI (Python), RubyGems (Ruby), NPM and Bower (JavaScript) and Lein (Clojure) allow packages without any explicit licensing info into their repos

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] programming language package manager

2016-04-18 Thread Richard Stallman
[[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > * disallowing non-FLOSS-licensed This is a good opportunity to point out that th

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] programming language package manager

2016-04-18 Thread Richard Stallman
[[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] Is anyone working on making a free version of some repository? Would someone like to

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] programming language package manager

2016-04-18 Thread Richard Stallman
[[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > Most of the repositories listed are based on manifest files that contain > lice

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] programming language package manager

2016-04-18 Thread Richard Stallman
[[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > I have been thinking along similar lines, namely adding something like a > disa

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] programming language package manager

2016-04-16 Thread Yui Hirasawa
> * Make free replacement repositories, and modify our versions > of those packages to use the free ones. We would fill > free replacement repositories with the free packages from > the existing repositories. I think making just simple wrapper scripts that emulate pip, cargo, etc. behaviour on to

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] programming language package manager

2016-04-14 Thread Ineiev
On Tue, Apr 12, 2016 at 06:04:34PM -0400, Richard Stallman wrote: > > > Curisously enough, recently a novice translator argued that > > the combination of "free" and "libre" must mean "free as in freedom" > > and "gratis", because "libre" means freedom, so "free" is unnecessary > > unless

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] programming language package manager

2016-04-13 Thread Arun Isaac
Do the MELPA and Marmalade Emacs package repositories have similar problems with non-free software? I've always wondered... signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] programming language package manager

2016-04-12 Thread Richard Stallman
[[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > Curisously enough, recently a novice translator argued that > the combination o

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] programming language package manager

2016-04-12 Thread Julien Kyou
On April 12, 2016 5:11:57 AM AST, Ineiev wrote: >On Tue, Apr 12, 2016 at 04:49:59AM -0400, Julien Kyou wrote: >> On April 12, 2016 3:12:03 AM AST, Ineiev wrote: >> > >> >Curiously enough, recently a novice translator argued that >> >the combination of "free" and "libre" must mean "free as in free

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] programming language package manager

2016-04-12 Thread Ineiev
On Tue, Apr 12, 2016 at 04:49:59AM -0400, Julien Kyou wrote: > On April 12, 2016 3:12:03 AM AST, Ineiev wrote: > > > >Curisously enough, recently a novice translator argued that > >the combination of "free" and "libre" must mean "free as in freedom" > >and "gratis", because "libre" means freedom,

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] programming language package manager

2016-04-12 Thread Julien Kyou
On April 12, 2016 3:12:03 AM AST, Ineiev wrote: > >Curisously enough, recently a novice translator argued that >the combination of "free" and "libre" must mean "free as in freedom" >and "gratis", because "libre" means freedom, so "free" is unnecessary >unless it adds some different meaning. Actua

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] programming language package manager

2016-04-12 Thread Ineiev
On Mon, Apr 11, 2016 at 08:49:25AM -0400, Mike Gerwitz wrote: > > Not that it is ideal, but if they reject a full replacement to "free > software", maybe they'd consider "free/libre and open source software". > > I'm not fond of "free and open source software" because (as an > increasing trend) o

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] programming language package manager

2016-04-11 Thread Paul M
On Mon, 2016-04-11 at 21:44 -0400, Tyler Romeo wrote: > > * Ask the people that run those repositories to stop recommending > > nonfree software. > > I think one additional feature I would like to see (not so much for the > repositories themselves but for the underlying software), is a means of >

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] programming language package manager

2016-04-11 Thread Tyler Romeo
> * Ask the people that run those repositories to stop recommending > nonfree software. I think one additional feature I would like to see (not so much for the repositories themselves but for the underlying software), is a means of placing license restrictions on your projects or libraries. Most

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] programming language package manager

2016-04-11 Thread Richard Stallman
[[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > I'm not fond of "free and open source software" because (as an > increasing tre

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] programming language package manager

2016-04-11 Thread Richard Stallman
[[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > As an incentive, perhaps the FSF could recognise ethical repositories > on thei

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] programming language package manager

2016-04-11 Thread Mike Gerwitz
On Mon, Apr 11, 2016 at 10:25:03 +0200, Alexander Berntsen wrote: > I would also suggest that any Haskell developers and users who are > reading this email try to convince Hackage and haskell.org into > changing "open source" to *free software*, thereby highlighting what > really matters. Not that

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] programming language package manager

2016-04-11 Thread Alexander Berntsen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 As an incentive, perhaps the FSF could recognise ethical repositories on their Website. Although Hackage[0] rejected my patch to change "open source" to "free software", they have taken a commendably clear stance in rejecting nonfree software. I wou

Re: [libreplanet-discuss] programming language package manager

2016-04-10 Thread Richard Stallman
> A lot of programming languages have own Package Manager > Examples of those packages managers: npm (CSS/JavaScript), Bower > (Web), pip (Python), Ruby Gems (Ruby), > CPAN (Perl), Cargo (Rust), ... These repositories with nonfree software a real problem. However, we don't run these repos

[libreplanet-discuss] programming language package manager

2016-04-03 Thread Ali Abdul Ghani
Most of us use Package manager to install Programs in fully free gnu/linux distributions all the repositorys is free software But wait this seme not tru A lot of programming languages have own Package Manager Examples of those packages managers: npm (CSS/JavaScript), Bower (Web), pip (Python), Rub