Re: Avoiding paying Windows license in the US

2021-06-01 Thread Jean Louis
More references: https://fsfe.org/news/2021/news-20210302-01.html Finally, in December 2020, the Court of Monza rejected all Lenovo's arguments, confirming that the right to reimbursement of the pre-installed software was due. The sentence pointed out that the manufacturer itself had expressly ass

Re: Avoiding paying Windows license in the US

2021-06-01 Thread Jean Louis
* Julian Daich [2021-06-01 00:47]: > My decision is to return the laptop and getting a cheaper second hand > one instead. Yes, why not. I am using low cost older Thinkpads with hope to be able to remove the proprietary BIOS and replace it with the Libreboot. -- Jean Take action in Free Soft

Re: Avoiding paying Windows license in the US

2021-06-01 Thread Jean Louis
* Julian Daich [2021-05-30 15:01]: > El dom, 30 may 2021 a las 7:42, Jean Louis () escribió: > > > > * Julian Daich [2021-05-30 06:47]: > > > Hi, > > > > > > I got a new HP laptop and still did notl open it- Any idea how to > > > avoid paying the Windows license before installing GNU/ Linux? > >

Re: Avoiding paying Windows license in the US

2021-06-01 Thread Jean Louis
Jurisdiction was said to be US. EU is different. * Federico Leva (Nemo) [2021-05-30 10:28]: > Il 30/05/21 06:46, Julian Daich ha scritto: > > I got a new HP laptop and still did notl open it- Any idea how to > > avoid paying the Windows license before installing GNU/ Linux? > > In what jurisdict

Re: Avoiding paying Windows license in the US

2021-06-01 Thread nupilios
Hi, in Europe you deinstall Windows and ASK for a refund. One Person even die take it to a court and won. https://fsfe.org/news/2021/news-20210302-01.en.html# Am 30. Mai 2021, 06:06 +0200 schrieb Aaron Wolf : If you already have it, the license was already paid by HP. If

Re: Avoiding paying Windows license in the US

2021-06-01 Thread Jean Louis
* Julian Daich [2021-05-30 06:47]: > Hi, > > I got a new HP laptop and still did notl open it- Any idea how to > avoid paying the Windows license before installing GNU/ Linux? Some reference: https://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/how-to-get-a-windows-tax-refund.html I remember if you don't accept EULA

Re: Avoiding paying Windows license in the US

2021-06-01 Thread Matt Ivie
On Mon, 2021-05-31 at 23:46 +0200, Julian Daich wrote: > > I talked today with an HP representative. for almost 40 minutes Their > position was taking it as it comes with WIndows or returning the > laptop to be refunded for all. > > My decision is to return the laptop and getting a cheaper second

Re: Avoiding paying Windows license in the US

2021-05-31 Thread Julian Daich
El dom, 30 may 2021 a las 14:14, Jean Louis () escribió: > > You should read EULA, so far I remember, by non-acceptance of the EULA > you may get the refund. I do not know what license is in your case, > why not read it exactly? > > More references: > http://marc.merlins.org/linux/refundday/ > > ht

Re: Avoiding paying Windows license in the US

2021-05-30 Thread Julian Daich
El dom, 30 may 2021 a las 7:42, Jean Louis () escribió: > > * Julian Daich [2021-05-30 06:47]: > > Hi, > > > > I got a new HP laptop and still did notl open it- Any idea how to > > avoid paying the Windows license before installing GNU/ Linux? > > Some reference: > https://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/h

Re: Avoiding paying Windows license in the US

2021-05-30 Thread Félicien Pillot
Le Sun, 30 May 2021 05:46:06 +0200, Julian Daich a écrit : > I got a new HP laptop and still did notl open it- Any idea how to > avoid paying the Windows license before installing GNU/ Linux? I don't know in the US, but in France I have had to choose carefully the computer brand and reseller in

Re: Avoiding paying Windows license in the US

2021-05-30 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Il 30/05/21 06:46, Julian Daich ha scritto: I got a new HP laptop and still did notl open it- Any idea how to avoid paying the Windows license before installing GNU/ Linux? In what jurisdiction? In the EU/EEA, the CJEU ruling on case C‑310/15 applies. https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/E

Re: Avoiding paying Windows license in the US

2021-05-29 Thread Aaron Wolf
If you already have it, the license was already paid by HP. If your point is simply to not *accept* the license on loading up the computer, that's easy. You can get a GNU/Linux install live USB and boot off of that directly and erase Windows so it will never even run the first time. Someone else

Avoiding paying Windows license in the US

2021-05-29 Thread Julian Daich
Hi, I got a new HP laptop and still did notl open it- Any idea how to avoid paying the Windows license before installing GNU/ Linux? Best, Julian ___ libreplanet-discuss mailing list libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org https://lists.libreplanet.org/ma