Re: RMS speech transcript

2022-04-29 Thread Devin Ulibarri
Hi, On 4/19/22 14:58, Andy Tai wrote: > This was machine generated via Mozilla DeepSpeech ( > https://deepspeech.readthedocs.io/en/r0.9/?badge=latest) > and probably needs manual editing to correct errors and to be properly > formatted. > > As attached I added it to https://libreplanet.org/wiki/

Re: The endless thread without benefit - Re: re. RMS

2021-04-12 Thread Jean Louis
* Adonay Felipe Nogueira via libreplanet-discuss [2021-04-09 16:36]> > I know that it also depends on the font size, since for example, > visually impaired people (e.g.: with monocular vision) have to > either use a text-to-speech software or rely on a setting to enlarge > only the text font size

Re: The endless thread without benefit - Re: re. RMS

2021-04-09 Thread Adonay Felipe Nogueira via libreplanet-discuss
Em 07/04/2021 03:24, Danny Spitzberg escreveu: >It may be my email client or my eyes but I cannot decipher this ascii >art. Accessibility standards would implore you to please also include a >plain text translation. >[…] > / ___| _ _ _ __ _ __ ___ _ __| |_ | _ \| \/ /

Re: The endless thread without benefit - Re: re. RMS

2021-04-08 Thread Danny Spitzberg
It may be my email client or my eyes but I cannot decipher this ascii art. Accessibility standards would implore you to please also include a plain text translation. On Mon, Apr 5, 2021 at 12:22 PM Jean Louis wrote: * Lori Nagel via libreplanet-discuss <[1]libreplanet-discus

Re: The endless thread without benefit - Re: re. RMS

2021-04-08 Thread J Leslie Turriff
On 2021-04-05 11:45:46 Jean Louis wrote: > * Lori Nagel via libreplanet-discuss > [2021-04-05 19:32]: > >I think a lot of this discussion about RMS is because most people > >forget about freedom respecting software activism most of the time. > >They don't live eat sleep and breathe i

Re: The endless thread without benefit - Re: re. RMS

2021-04-08 Thread Jean Louis
* Danny Spitzberg [2021-04-07 09:24]: > It may be my email client or my eyes but I cannot decipher this ascii art. > Accessibility standards would implore you to please also include a plain > text translation. Sorry. Every email client should be able to read simple text, not only HTML. I can rea

The endless thread without benefit - Re: re. RMS

2021-04-05 Thread Jean Louis
* Lori Nagel via libreplanet-discuss [2021-04-05 19:32]: >I think a lot of this discussion about RMS is because most people >forget about freedom respecting software activism most of the time. >They don't live eat sleep and breathe it 24/7. Every time a RMS news >article comes ou

Re: re. RMS

2021-04-05 Thread Lori Nagel via libreplanet-discuss
I think a lot of this discussion about RMS is because most people forget about freedom respecting software activism most of the time. They don't live eat sleep and breathe it 24/7. Every time a RMS news article comes out, or he is embroiled in some controversy, then people find the

Re: re. RMS

2021-04-05 Thread Thomas Lord
Autism awareness is great but armchair diagnoses are not. Could we at least ask to rename this list "let's talk endlessly about RMS' personality" to better reflect reality? :-P -t On 2021-04-05 06:28, Miles Fidelman wrote: Given that Friday was Autism Awareness Day, it might be worth noting t

re. RMS

2021-04-05 Thread Miles Fidelman
Given that Friday was Autism Awareness Day, it might be worth noting that RMS is clearly "on the spectrum" - and well known since the days he slept in his office at MIT (my student days). Why is it that nobody ever gives him any leeway for that? Miles Fidelman -- In theory, there is no differ

Re: RMS is back on board

2021-03-28 Thread Adrienne G. Thompson
In addition to your emails to [1]i...@fsf.org, please add your names to the open letter supporting RMS organised by [2]codeberg.org: If you want to support the letter without using Github, go here: [3]https://codeberg.org/rms-support-letter/rms-support-letter/issues /1, or sen

Re: libreplanet-discuss Digest, Vol 131, Issue 17 Re: RMS is back on board

2021-03-27 Thread Adrienne G. Thompson
t; When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >> than "Re: Contents of libreplanet-discuss digest..." >> >> >> Today's Topics: >> >>1. Re: Today: LilyPond Workshop shortly after LibrePl

Re: RMS is back on board

2021-03-27 Thread quiliro
Jean Louis writes: > Express your resentments by writing to i...@eff.org Did it now. ___ libreplanet-discuss mailing list libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org https://lists.libreplanet.org/mailman/listinfo/libreplanet-discuss

Re: RMS is back on board

2021-03-27 Thread Jean Louis
* gregor [2021-03-27 09:29]: >RMS is a genius and we, ordinary people can not aspire to totally >comprehend the finished thoughts he expresses. Maybe the wittiness of >his "sexist" jokes are a double parabole which reveals the corrupt side >of our society and does it so in a "monty

Re: libreplanet-discuss Digest, Vol 131, Issue 17 Re: RMS is back on board

2021-03-27 Thread Jean Louis
* Jan Kubát [2021-03-26 17:52]: > >> Re: RMS is back on board > > Hi, > I recall there has been some reason to avoid Github, but discussing > the support of RMS being back on board, I thought of sharing a link > > https://rms-support-letter.github.io/ Sure, it

Re: libreplanet-discuss Digest, Vol 131, Issue 17 Re: RMS is back on board

2021-03-27 Thread Adrien Bourmault via libreplanet-discuss
Le 26 mars 2021 00:07:49 GMT+01:00, "Jan Kubát" a écrit : >>> Re: RMS is back on board > >Hi, >I recall there has been some reason to avoid Github, but discussing >the support of RMS being back on board, I thought of sharing a link > >https://rms-support-let

Re: RMS is back on board

2021-03-27 Thread Adrien Bourmault via libreplanet-discuss
Le 26 mars 2021 06:10:41 GMT+01:00, Jean Louis a écrit : >Who is on Github: >https://github.com/gnusupport/rms-support-letter.github.io > >Fork the repository, then in your forked repository you will find a >link and instructions how to create the yaml file with your name and >link, open up pull r

Re: RMS is back on board

2021-03-27 Thread Jean Louis
* Dennis Payne [2021-03-26 17:50]: > On Thu, 2021-03-25 at 21:44 +0430, Ali Reza Hayati wrote: > > I wrote this blog post: > > https://alirezahayati.com/2021/03/25/fight-against-idiocy-support-rms/ > > > > Please send your support of RMS to i...@fsf.org. This would be much > > appreciated. > >

Re: libreplanet-discuss Digest, Vol 131, Issue 18 Re: RMS is back on board

2021-03-27 Thread Jean Louis
* Jan Kubát [2021-03-26 17:53]: > Hi, > for your information, there is also a post from FSFE at > > https://fsfe.org/news/2021/news-20210324-01.en.html > > - my understanding is they are not happy about the way RMS did his > comeback, not so much in regard the announcement may have seemed a bit

Re: RMS is back on board

2021-03-26 Thread gregor
hI all. firstly appologies for adding to this tempest in a cup of tea. As just recently stated by mr. Thomas Lord: "This list was not created for for endless discussion of RMS' or anyone else's alleged virtues or vices." secondly, thank you mr. Ali Reza Hayati for the post you've s

Re: RMS is back on board

2021-03-26 Thread Danny Spitzberg
At the risk of oversimplification,... It is bad practice for a movement to protect people who behave badly and have demonstrated an unwillingness or inability to change their behavior — because they have made some good contributions. It’s ever worse practice to pretend people “well

Re: RMS is back on board

2021-03-26 Thread Ivan J.
On Thu, Mar 25, 2021 at 09:44:32PM +0430, Ali Reza Hayati wrote: > I wrote this blog post: > https://alirezahayati.com/2021/03/25/fight-against-idiocy-support-rms/ Thank you for this, it's a fantastic read. I'd urge anyone who can to spread it. Best regards, Ivan

Re: libreplanet-discuss Digest, Vol 131, Issue 18 Re: RMS is back on board

2021-03-26 Thread Jan Kubát
-requ...@libreplanet.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > libreplanet-discuss-ow...@libreplanet.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of libreplanet-discuss digest..." > > > Today&#x

Re: libreplanet-discuss Digest, Vol 131, Issue 17 Re: RMS is back on board

2021-03-26 Thread Jan Kubát
>> Re: RMS is back on board Hi, I recall there has been some reason to avoid Github, but discussing the support of RMS being back on board, I thought of sharing a link https://rms-support-letter.github.io/ in case you are not aware of it yet. I consider mailing FSF a better option, yet

Re: RMS is back on board

2021-03-26 Thread github . com
* Adrienne G. Thompson [2021-03-26 00:43]: >I was in the process of drafting an email to [2]i...@fsf.org when I >received your message. I'll be sending it today, and wish to encourage >others to email messages of support too - asap! >Also, please don't forget that Alexandre Oliva h

Re: RMS is back on board

2021-03-26 Thread Jean Louis
* Ali Reza Hayati [2021-03-26 00:03]: > As I said, there's no "proof". A story, even if the whole world > tells it, doesn't matter unless there's proof. It does not matter for people with integrity, as such would not accuse without evidences. That is why we have courts, justice systems. They are

Re: RMS is back on board

2021-03-26 Thread Dennis Payne
On Thu, 2021-03-25 at 21:44 +0430, Ali Reza Hayati wrote: > I wrote this blog post: > https://alirezahayati.com/2021/03/25/fight-against-idiocy-support-rms/ > > Please send your support of RMS to i...@fsf.org. This would be much > appreciated. I don't think RMS should be "cancelled". If FSF wan

Re: RMS is back on board

2021-03-26 Thread Jean Louis
Who is on Github: https://github.com/gnusupport/rms-support-letter.github.io Fork the repository, then in your forked repository you will find a link and instructions how to create the yaml file with your name and link, open up pull request to include your signature there. Jean _

Re: RMS is back on board

2021-03-26 Thread Jean Louis
* Thomas Lord [2021-03-26 02:21]: > Having been personally close enough to see how some of the EFF founders > thought, I will remain comfortable damning the organization in absolute > terms. Nothing in their history of advocacy has changed my mind. Obviously > other people without that direct ex

Re: RMS is back on board

2021-03-26 Thread Jean Louis
* Ali Reza Hayati [2021-03-26 02:17]: > Yes. I've seen this. EFF does a wonderful job but they're not > defending software libre movement, at least in this matter. That is definitely immoral from organizational viewpoint, they lobby now who is to be on board of other organization. EFF is thus cor

Re: RMS is back on board

2021-03-26 Thread Jean Louis
* Danny Spitzberg [2021-03-25 19:52]: >And then Kat Walsh resigned from the board: > >I am announcing my resignation from the FSF board. (Effective end of >Thursday, for administrative reasons.) It's a decision that has been a >long time coming for me, but still a hard one: I thin

Re: RMS is back on board

2021-03-25 Thread Thomas Lord
Having been personally close enough to see how some of the EFF founders thought, I will remain comfortable damning the organization in absolute terms. Nothing in their history of advocacy has changed my mind. Obviously other people without that direct experience might not have the same sens

Re: RMS is back on board

2021-03-25 Thread Ali Reza Hayati
Yes. I've seen this. EFF does a wonderful job but they're not defending software libre movement, at least in this matter. I appreciate it if you focus on defending truth not opposing any organization. However, it's good to show those organizarions that their actions will have consequences. But

Re: RMS is back on board

2021-03-25 Thread Thomas Lord
The EFF has also attacked Stallman in reaction to his return to the board. https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2021/03/statement-re-election-richard-stallman-fsf-board -t On 2021-03-25 15:13, Ali Reza Hayati wrote: Thank you Adrienne. Libreplanet people, while we can message board members, it i

Re: RMS is back on board

2021-03-25 Thread Ali Reza Hayati
Thank you Adrienne. Libreplanet people, while we can message board members, it is much appreciated to first send your emails to i...@fsf.org. Letting board members know of your support is also very much appreciated. Let's not let these bullies and haters hurt our principals and take back our c

Non-functional/non-practical data/works (was: Re: RMS is back on board)

2021-03-25 Thread Adonay Felipe Nogueira via libreplanet-discuss
Em 25/03/2021 18:01, Ali Reza Hayati escreveu: > … Ali, I'm not replying to you, but to Dennis Payne. Their message is the only instance in which their statements appear. > On March 25, 2021 8:39:16 PM UTC, Dennis Payne > wrote: >> Even without those stories, I find RMS flawed in his treatment

Re: RMS is back on board

2021-03-25 Thread Adrienne G. Thompson
Ali: Please send your support of RMS to [1]i...@fsf.org. This would be much appreciated. I was in the process of drafting an email to [2]i...@fsf.org when I received your message. I'll be sending it today, and wish to encourage others to email messages of support too -

Re: RMS is back on board

2021-03-25 Thread Ali Reza Hayati
As I said, there's no "proof". A story, even if the whole world tells it, doesn't matter unless there's proof. On March 25, 2021 8:39:16 PM UTC, Dennis Payne wrote: >On Thu, 2021-03-25 at 21:44 +0430, Ali Reza Hayati wrote: >> I wrote this blog post: >> https://alirezahayati.com/2021/03/25/fig

Re: RMS is back on board

2021-03-25 Thread Ali Reza Hayati
I wrote this blog post: https://alirezahayati.com/2021/03/25/fight-against-idiocy-support-rms/ Please send your support of RMS to i...@fsf.org. This would be much appreciated. OpenPGP_signature Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ libreplane

Re: RMS is back on board

2021-03-25 Thread Danny Spitzberg
And then Kat Walsh resigned from the board: I am announcing my resignation from the FSF board. (Effective end of Thursday, for administrative reasons.) It's a decision that has been a long time coming for me, but still a hard one: I think the work of the FSF is important, and broken

Re: RMS is back on board

2021-03-25 Thread lily via libreplanet-discuss
I'm so overjoyed to hear this wonderful news!!! And I'm sure so many in the community are happy to know that you are back on the FSF board Dr. Richard Stallman :) This news is definitely the highlight of my week. I've been singing Free (Freedom) Software songs since the Libre Planet

Re: RMS is back on board

2021-03-25 Thread Jean Louis
* . [2021-03-25 00:08]: > Jean, I'm just an end user, but did you know about nitter? > https://github.com/zedeus/nitter/wiki/Instances Thank you. No, I did not know, but I was expecting something like that to exist. That is like proxy for Twitter. Not bad to find out sometimes what was said, wi

Re: RMS is back on board

2021-03-25 Thread Quiliro Ordóñez
El 2021-03-23 00:50, Danny Spitzberg escribió: > RMS announced he is back on the FSF board >[1]https://twitter.com/nixcraft/status/1373905399707955202 but his name >is not (yet?) on the FSF website >[2]https://www.fsf.org/about/staff-and-board/ ? > > References > >1. https://twitt

Re: RMS is back on board

2021-03-24 Thread .
Jean, I'm just an end user, but did you know about nitter? https://github.com/zedeus/nitter/wiki/Instances It's sort of like invidious for twitter and might possibly help. I don't have a vpn right now either and I hope the same thing. On 03/24/2021 01:33 AM, Jean Louis wrote: * Danny Spitzb

Re: RMS is back on board

2021-03-24 Thread alimiracle
I'm a big fan of his. His contributions cannot be questioned. And gnu/Linux would not exist in it's current form without him. على 3/22/2021 ‫10:50 PM، كتب Danny Spitzberg: RMS announced he is back on the FSF board [1][1]https://twitter.com/nixcraft/status/1373905399707955202 but hi

Re: RMS is back on board

2021-03-24 Thread Adrien Bourmault via libreplanet-discuss
Le 23 mars 2021 06:50:09 GMT+01:00, Danny Spitzberg a écrit : >RMS announced he is back on the FSF board >https://twitter.com/nixcraft/status/1373905399707955202 but his name is not >(yet?) on the FSF website https://www.fsf.org/about/staff-and-board/ ? Just checked : he is now listed at the end

Re: RMS is back on board

2021-03-24 Thread Jean Louis
* Danny Spitzberg [2021-03-23 19:10]: >RMS announced he is back on the FSF board >[1]https://twitter.com/nixcraft/status/1373905399707955202 but his name >is not (yet?) on the FSF website >[2]https://www.fsf.org/about/staff-and-board/ ? That is great news. Just that RMS does not

Re: RMS is back on board

2021-03-24 Thread .
Thank you for keeping us updated, Danny. I am personally hoping to be in [1]https://testgreenlight.fsf.org/rms-dfw-93a at exactly 4:20 today even though rms doesn't actually have any sort of personal relationship with me at all. On 03/22/2021 10:50 PM, Danny Spitzberg wrote:

Re: RMS is back on board

2021-03-23 Thread Caleb Herbert
נכתב על ידי Adrienne G. Thompson, ב־23.3.2021 בשעה 15:01: > They've also axed Oliva for suggesting that prospective members send a >message to the FSF indicating their wish to have RMS reinstated. NO! lxo already lost his job at Red Hat, he doesn't need this. He's a very compassionate and gene

Re: RMS is back on board

2021-03-23 Thread Adrienne G. Thompson
RMS announced he is back on the FSF board [1][1]https://twitter.com/nixcraft/status/1373905399707955202 but his name is not (yet?) on the FSF website [2][2]https://www.fsf.org/about/staff-and-board/ ? So here's my tweet: "Hooray!!! #RMS is back on the boa