Re: why isn't stallman on lp2022 speakers list?

2022-03-21 Thread Akira Urushibata
It is nice to hear from someone who worked on GNU in the early days. I thank Mr. Thomas Lord for his contributions to GNU Sed. Recently there is much talk on this list on preventing Russians from acquiring free software. I believe we should rather consider how to accurately inform people around t

Re: why isn't stallman on lp2022 speakers list?

2022-03-16 Thread Thomas Lord
On 2022-03-15 17:12, Akira Urushibata wrote: I have spoken on numerous occasions on free software philosophy placed in the context of the development of software technology. [] I really loved reading this as someone who once had a good job as a GNU project grunt working on tasks like improv

Re: why isn't stallman on lp2022 speakers list?

2022-03-16 Thread Thomas Lord
Complete with Chinese cuisine banquet. On 2022-03-16 15:23, Yuchen Pei wrote: On Thu 2022-03-03 21:21:27 +0200, Danny Spitzberg wrote: Here's an idea: organize "StallmanCon"! I can think of one scenario where something like a "stallmancon" would make sense. It is not uncommon in academia t

Re: why isn't stallman on lp2022 speakers list?

2022-03-16 Thread Yuchen Pei
On Thu 2022-03-03 21:21:27 +0200, Danny Spitzberg wrote: > Here's an idea: organize "StallmanCon"! > I can think of one scenario where something like a "stallmancon" would make sense. It is not uncommon in academia to hold a conference in honour of someone's 10's mutiples birthday, so perhaps a

Re: why isn't stallman on lp2022 speakers list?

2022-03-16 Thread Akira Urushibata
I have spoken on numerous occasions on free software philosophy placed in the context of the development of software technology. I notice that many younger engineers have no idea on what computing was like before GNU/Linux became popular. For some years GNU was available without Linux. Bash, Ema

Re: why isn't stallman on lp2022 speakers list?

2022-03-13 Thread Kaio Duarte Costa
Em 2022-03-13 16:22, Adrienne G. Thompson escreveu: > On Mon, Mar 7, 2022 at 3:01 PM Dora Scilipoti <[1]d...@gnu.org> wrote: > > > Richard did not found the free > > software/libre movement, as well as his world, alone. > Yes, he founded it alone: > [2]https://www.gnu.org/gnu/i

Re: why isn't stallman on lp2022 speakers list?

2022-03-13 Thread Adrienne G. Thompson
On Mon, Mar 7, 2022 at 3:01 PM Dora Scilipoti <[1]d...@gnu.org> wrote: > Richard did not found the free > software/libre movement, as well as his world, alone. Yes, he founded it alone: [2]https://www.gnu.org/gnu/initial-announcement.html Even Wikipedia got it right:

Re: why isn't stallman on lp2022 speakers list?

2022-03-09 Thread Jean Louis
* Jim Fulner [2022-03-09 02:07]: > > Your statement I find twisted and not honest. I don't believe you. > > I'm sorry to hear that. I suppose it makes sense. I've been a long > time lurker on this list and it has probably been years since I last > actually posted publicly to it, so you have no pa

Re: why isn't stallman on lp2022 speakers list?

2022-03-08 Thread Jean Louis
* Jim Fulner [2022-03-09 00:33]: >So I saw on the fedeverse that Libraplent is still looking for >lightning talk speakers >[1]https://libranet.de/display/d50ad373-ff5b1973528ceddb-f9069f45 >rms is on this list, so rather than just complaining that he doesn't >have a place of ho

Re: why isn't stallman on lp2022 speakers list?

2022-03-08 Thread Jim Fulner
> Your statement I find twisted and not honest. I don't believe you. I'm sorry to hear that. I suppose it makes sense. I've been a long time lurker on this list and it has probably been years since I last actually posted publicly to it, so you have no particular reason to believe me as we haven't

Re: why isn't stallman on lp2022 speakers list?

2022-03-08 Thread Thomas Lord
I second this (the message quoted below). It isn't clear to me that anyone has even asked RMS what he would prefer here. If he attends, my thought would be that perhaps he can hold a break-out talk or birds of a feather or just group chat if he feels like it. I assume (perhaps falsely) that vi

Re: why isn't stallman on lp2022 speakers list?

2022-03-08 Thread Jim Fulner
So I saw on the fedeverse that Libraplent is still looking for lightning talk speakers [1]https://libranet.de/display/d50ad373-ff5b1973528ceddb-f9069f45 rms is on this list, so rather than just complaining that he doesn't have a place of honor he could chose to do that, and if advert

Re: why isn't stallman on lp2022 speakers list?

2022-03-07 Thread Jean Louis
* Danny Spitzberg [2022-03-06 21:38]: >Except he’s not speaking this year, it seems, so that’s why I proposed >all of true fans organize a conference featuring him! >Anyone interested?? You know what -- I find it unfriendly. That some of people wish to have RMS speaking did not exclu

Re: why isn't stallman on lp2022 speakers list?

2022-03-07 Thread Dora Scilipoti
> Richard did not found the free > software/libre movement, as well as his world, alone. Yes, he founded it alone: https://www.gnu.org/gnu/initial-announcement.html After that, others joined him. -- Dora Scilipoti gnu.org/education stallmansupport.org -- Disinformation succeeds because so many

Re: why isn't stallman on lp2022 speakers list?

2022-03-06 Thread Kaio Duarte Costa
Em 2022-03-06 14:52, Adrienne G. Thompson escreveu: > Danny: > >Maybe then the LibrePlanet organizers need to change the name!! > >"A rose by any other name would smell as sweet"! >You can change the name, but you can't change the founder and leader of >the Free/Libre Software wor

Re: why isn't stallman on lp2022 speakers list?

2022-03-06 Thread Kaio Duarte Costa
Em 2022-03-06 13:18, Dora Scilipoti escreveu: > On 3/6/22 03:25, Kaio Duarte Costa wrote: >> Em 2022-03-05 19:46, Dora Scilipoti escreveu: > >> In the event, I was not mistaken about the first part of my text. In >> fact, I didn't say that his participation would replace another or that >> others

Re: why isn't stallman on lp2022 speakers list?

2022-03-06 Thread Dora Scilipoti
I would like to add something to my previous message which I think is important regarding worshiping. > That's because some people are more passionate than others. It can be a > matter of personality or culture. I've seen RMS many times urging people not to treat him as if he were a god. He has d

Re: why isn't stallman on lp2022 speakers list?

2022-03-06 Thread Danny Spitzberg
Except he’s not speaking this year, it seems, so that’s why I proposed all of true fans organize a conference featuring him! Anyone interested?? On Sun, Mar 6, 2022 at 7:53 PM Adrienne G. Thompson <[1]adriennegayethomp...@gmail.com> wrote: Danny: Maybe then the LibrePlanet or

Re: why isn't stallman on lp2022 speakers list?

2022-03-06 Thread Dora Scilipoti
On 3/6/22 03:25, Kaio Duarte Costa wrote: > Em 2022-03-05 19:46, Dora Scilipoti escreveu: > In the event, I was not mistaken about the first part of my text. In > fact, I didn't say that his participation would replace another or that > others would do this as well, he is certainly welcome to part

Re: why isn't stallman on lp2022 speakers list?

2022-03-06 Thread Adrienne G. Thompson
Danny: Maybe then the LibrePlanet organizers need to change the name!! "A rose by any other name would smell as sweet"! You can change the name, but you can't change the founder and leader of the Free/Libre Software world. The Conference will, de facto, always be "Stallman Con"!

Re: why isn't stallman on lp2022 speakers list?

2022-03-05 Thread Kaio Duarte Costa
Em 2022-03-05 19:46, Dora Scilipoti escreveu: > Hello Kaio, > > Kaio Duarte Costa wrote: > >> Many people signed up, took the time and filled out the form to >> participate in LibrePlanet 2022 as speakers, including me. It is not >> fair to those who prepared and filled out the form before, the d

Re: why isn't stallman on lp2022 speakers list?

2022-03-05 Thread Dora Scilipoti
Hello Kaio, Kaio Duarte Costa wrote: > Many people signed up, took the time and filled out the form to > participate in LibrePlanet 2022 as speakers, including me. It is not > fair to those who prepared and filled out the form before, the deadline > has passed and it was very well publicized by t

Re: why isn't stallman on lp2022 speakers list?

2022-03-05 Thread Danny Spitzberg
Maybe then the LibrePlanet organizers need to change the name!! On Fri, Mar 4, 2022 at 7:17 PM Adrienne G. Thompson <[1]adriennegayethomp...@gmail.com> wrote: Hey Danny: People can organize StallmanCon any time RMS is available and he can be the only speaker! Dr. Richard St

Re: why isn't stallman on lp2022 speakers list?

2022-03-04 Thread Adrienne G. Thompson
Hey Danny: People can organize StallmanCon any time RMS is available and he can be the only speaker! Dr. Richard Stallman - aka RMS - is the founder and leader of the Free/Libre Software Movement. "Libre Planet "is StallmanCon!!! Adrienne -- Freedom - no pane, all gaiGN!

Re: why isn't stallman on lp2022 speakers list?

2022-03-04 Thread Jean Louis
* Danny Spitzberg [2022-03-04 18:22]: > People can organize StallmanCon any time RMS is available and he can be the > only speaker! 😄 Is it a new wave of hate messages? I think it was quite reasonable to ask why is RMS not invited to Libreplanet. And I think this is proper place to do so. This

Re: why isn't stallman on lp2022 speakers list?

2022-03-04 Thread Danny Spitzberg
Simply put, people seem very focused on RMS — and I’ve yet to hear anyone express any interest in anyone else at LibreCon or not — so it follows that those people might consider trying to organize their own event, no? On Fri, Mar 4, 2022 at 6:05 PM Jean Louis wrote: * Danny S

Re: why isn't stallman on lp2022 speakers list?

2022-03-04 Thread Danny Spitzberg
People can organize StallmanCon any time RMS is available and he can be the only speaker! On Fri, Mar 4, 2022 at 5:20 PM Jean Louis wrote: I surely wait one year to see RMS talking on Libreplanet, so please consider to update your agenda and invite him. On March 3, 2022 6

Re: why isn't stallman on lp2022 speakers list?

2022-03-04 Thread Jean Louis
On March 4, 2022 2:52:20 AM UTC, Lori Nagel via libreplanet-discuss wrote: >Don't get me wrong.  I'm not in any way anti-RMS, but the free software >movement needs to be about freedom respecting software, and not hero >worship (whether that person is RMS or some other "hero")  Long term, >what ar

Re: why isn't stallman on lp2022 speakers list?

2022-03-04 Thread Jean Louis
I surely wait one year to see RMS talking on Libreplanet, so please consider to update your agenda and invite him. On March 3, 2022 6:57:26 PM UTC, "Adrienne G. Thompson" wrote: >Fellow Free Software Supporters: > >Let's let the Libre Planet organisers know that the worldwide Free >software >c

Re: why isn't stallman on lp2022 speakers list?

2022-03-03 Thread Lori Nagel via libreplanet-discuss
Don't get me wrong. I'm not in any way anti-RMS, but the free software movement needs to be about freedom respecting software, and not hero worship (whether that person is RMS or some other "hero") Long term, what are we going to do, the whole trans-humanism thing where we worship

Re: why isn't stallman on lp2022 speakers list?

2022-03-03 Thread Kaio Duarte Costa
Em 2022-03-03 17:04, Pedro Lucas Porcellis escreveu: > Do we? Isn't a lot of other people available which can offer the same > level of guidance as RMS? Hasn't the man spoken a lot over all those > years? > > If we don't, then I think there's much more to evaluate other than him > *needing* to be

Re: why isn't stallman on lp2022 speakers list?

2022-03-03 Thread Danny Spitzberg
Here's an idea: organize "StallmanCon"! On Thu, Mar 3, 2022 at 9:20 PM Adrienne G. Thompson <[1]adriennegayethomp...@gmail.com> wrote: Fellow Free Software Supporters: Let's let the Libre Planet organisers know that the worldwide Free software community needs

Re: why isn't stallman on lp2022 speakers list?

2022-03-03 Thread Pedro Lucas Porcellis
Do we? Isn't a lot of other people available which can offer the same level of guidance as RMS? Hasn't the man spoken a lot over all those years? If we don't, then I think there's much more to evaluate other than him *needing* to be on the list of speakers. _

Re: why isn't stallman on lp2022 speakers list?

2022-03-03 Thread Adrienne G. Thompson
Fellow Free Software Supporters: Let's let the Libre Planet organisers know that the worldwide Free software community needs to hear our leader and founder of the Free Software Movement, Richard Stallman, address the Libre Planet 2022 conference!! Contact the FSF via this list "libre

why isn't stallman on lp2022 speakers list?

2022-03-01 Thread Dora Scilipoti
Leah Rowe - Sun, 27 Feb 2022 00:02:03 +: > RMS isn't on the speakers list this year. > > Is there a reason? I tend to think they simply forgot to invite him. -- Dora Scilipoti gnu.org/education stallmansupport.org -- Disinformation succeeds because so many people care deeply about injustic

why isn't stallman on lp2022 speakers list?

2022-02-26 Thread Leah Rowe via libreplanet-discuss
Hi all, I was excited when FSF announced the libreplanet 2022 schedule just recently, but something immediately caught my eye: RMS isn't on the speakers list this year. Is there a reason? -- Leah Rowe is not a rowebot "Think for yourself. Live free!" pgpg3QGP3ix0i.pgp Description: PGP sign