Re: What license to pick...

2000-09-29 Thread David Johnson
On Fri, 29 Sep 2000, flash gordon wrote: > I would suggest standard admittedly simplistic definitions: > > 1] 'Full Use Lifetime License' = [FULL] 'unfettered use' [i.e. GPL] > 2] 'Limited Use Software Enjoyment Rights License' = [LUSER License :)] > typical restricted commercial type copyright

Re: What license to pick...

2000-09-29 Thread flash gordon
At 08:00 PM 9/29/00 -0700, David Johnson wrote: >On Fri, 29 Sep 2000, flash gordon wrote: > > > GPL does not prohibit commercialization, it protects it. > > > > Personally I think that is a major flaw in the GNU/GPL concept of > > 'freeware' - I think the term 'freeware' should be reserved for sof

Re: What license to pick...

2000-09-29 Thread David Johnson
On Fri, 29 Sep 2000, flash gordon wrote: > GPL does not prohibit commercialization, it protects it. > > Personally I think that is a major flaw in the GNU/GPL concept of > 'freeware' - I think the term 'freeware' should be reserved for software > that is both free of restrictions on modificati

Re: What license to pick...

2000-09-29 Thread flash gordon
At 10:09 AM 9/29/00 +0200, Lionello Lunesu wrote: >OK.. > >So we (my company) have decided to make our VR-toolkit open source! But we >haven't decided which license to use for it. GPL seems the obvious choice, >but we want to restrict the freedom somehow (at least in the beginning, just >so we can

Re: What license to pick...

2000-09-29 Thread David Johnson
On Fri, 29 Sep 2000, Lionello Lunesu wrote: > OK.. > > So we (my company) have decided to make our VR-toolkit open source! But we > haven't decided which license to use for it. GPL seems the obvious choice, > but we want to restrict the freedom somehow (at least in the beginning, just > so we can

Re: simpleLinux Open Documentation License (sLODL)

2000-09-29 Thread Rick Moen
begin SamBC quotation: > Only one I saw was GNU FDL which was even less simple, and had some > clauses I disliked. It strikes me that writings in electronic format, that you want to be distributable that way, fall roughly into two categories: ones that express your personal views and that you t

Re: simpleLinux Open Documentation License (sLODL)

2000-09-29 Thread SamBC
- Original Message - From: "SamBC" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Only one I saw was GNU FDL which was even less simple, and had some clauses > I disliked. > > sLODL was as simple as I could make it while making it legally watertight > (AFAIK, as IANAL). I did research, and the subsectioning is t

Re: simpleLinux Open Documentation License (sLODL)

2000-09-29 Thread SamBC
- Original Message - From: "Dave J Woolley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > From: SamBC [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > http://www.simplelinux.org/legal/sLODL.html > > > > Opinions on OS-ness and legality, and general good/badness, pls > > > [DJW:] The HTML is invalid, although it makes an > e

Re: simpleLinux Open Documentation License (sLODL)

2000-09-29 Thread SamBC
Only one I saw was GNU FDL which was even less simple, and had some clauses I disliked. sLODL was as simple as I could make it while making it legally watertight (AFAIK, as IANAL). I did research, and the subsectioning is to make it easier, and definitions are a legal requirement in many jusirsdi

RE: simpleLinux Open Documentation License (sLODL)

2000-09-29 Thread Dave J Woolley
> From: SamBC [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > http://www.simplelinux.org/legal/sLODL.html > > Opinions on OS-ness and legality, and general good/badness, pls > [DJW:] The HTML is invalid, although it makes an exceptionally good attempt to use elements for their intended pu

RE: What license to pick...

2000-09-29 Thread Dave J Woolley
> From: Lionello Lunesu [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Does the GPL allow us (the toolkit creators) to ask a fee for commercial > use > of our toolkit? > [DJW:] No. You can ask a fee for the supply of the recorded media and for support, but you cannot charge for the licence itself. You can even

Re: What license to pick...

2000-09-29 Thread Forrest J. Cavalier III
It is nice to see someone ask questions before they take a license and assume it does something it does not, and mis-use it. > Does the GPL allow us (the toolkit creators) to ask a fee for commercial use > of our toolkit? That is a question that can be interpreted in a few different ways which c

Re: What license to pick...

2000-09-29 Thread Mark Koek
Lionello Lunesu wrote: > Does the GPL allow us (the toolkit creators) to ask a fee for commercial use > of our toolkit? You can ask what you want. :-) But because the GPL explicitly permits free redistribution, anyone could do the same, so it would be necessary to add value in return for the fe

Re: What license to pick...

2000-09-29 Thread Lionello Lunesu
Does the GPL allow us (the toolkit creators) to ask a fee for commercial use of our toolkit? L.

RE: What license to pick...

2000-09-29 Thread Dave J Woolley
> From: Lionello Lunesu [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > so we can ge more organised). We definately want to prohibit commercial > use > (I guess GPL covers this), but we also want to be notified of any changes > The GPL encourages commercial use (I may be wrong, but I have a feeling that the OSI ru

What license to pick...

2000-09-29 Thread Lionello Lunesu
OK.. So we (my company) have decided to make our VR-toolkit open source! But we haven't decided which license to use for it. GPL seems the obvious choice, but we want to restrict the freedom somehow (at least in the beginning, just so we can ge more organised). We definately want to prohibit comm