RE: testing kit conformance as a condition of distribution

2004-06-29 Thread Lawrence Rosen
Brian, I am surprised that Sun is still making this an issue. I thought several of us had already told them that their proposed Notice is flat-out incompatible with open source: NOTICE FROM SUN MICROSYSTEMS: Any redistributed derivative work of the software licensed hereunder must be c

Re: Dual license question

2004-06-29 Thread J.M.Piulachs [Sand!]
I understood that he was helping me to find the right place to get an answer to my question so all I can said is thanks for the suggestion and for the answer. - Original Message - From: "anon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2004 8:38 PM Subject: Re: Du

Re: testing kit conformance as a condition of distribution

2004-06-29 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting John Cowan ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > The most that Sun ought to reasonably require is that its trademarks > and certification marks not be applied to derivative works without a > separate license from Sun. This is very different from the case > of being allowed to reuse Sun's own code, where

Re: Dual license question

2004-06-29 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting anon ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > If you didn't object you wouldn't note. We seem to have a quibbler among us. > Why don't you have OSI appoint you moderator? > Otherwise hop on over to Slashdot with the rest of > the obnoxious gamers and script-kiddies. Oh wait: Correction, we seem to hav

Re: Dual license question

2004-06-29 Thread anon
> 1. I note without particular objection that your question is off-topic > for this list. Like practically all other recent posts, it hasn't had > anything to do with OSI or examining candidate licence for > OSD-compliance. If you didn't object you wouldn't note. Why don't you have OSI appoint

Re: testing kit conformance as a condition of distribution

2004-06-29 Thread John Cowan
Brian Behlendorf scripsit: > What I need are solid sound-bite-y easy-to-explain but non-dogmatic > arguments as to why such a conformance requirement is not compatible > with the way Open Source works (putting aside compatibility with any > particular licenses). Why, it's very simple. Suppose I