Re: [License-discuss] Protecting database integrity

2017-03-06 Thread Kevin Fleming
FYI, it's completely possible to build an Android device without connecting to any Google services or usage of any non-open-source software provided by Google (the radio and other hardware drivers may also be non-open-source byt come from the hardware manufacturers). However, if you want the users

Re: [License-discuss] License Question

2017-02-16 Thread Kevin Fleming
Another option is to contact the Software Freedom Conservancy, which represents a number of people who hold copyrights on code in the Linux kernel and do pursue violators, primarily to get access to the source code for everyone's benefit. You likely wouldn't be surprised to learn that they have a l

Re: [License-discuss] [Non-DoD Source] Re: OSI equivalent

2017-02-15 Thread Kevin Fleming
I see the image in his email, so it was indeed sent out by the list server. It must have been eaten by something on your end, unfortunately. It might be best to send a URL to where it can be found instead. On Wed, Feb 15, 2017 at 10:35 AM, Karan, Cem F CIV USARMY RDECOM ARL (US) < cem.f.karan@

Re: [License-discuss] step by step interpretation of common permissive licenses

2017-01-17 Thread Kevin Fleming
In general 'permissive' vs. 'non-permissive' applies to the obligation to publish source code, not the obligation(s) to reproduce copyright and license notices. It is generally assumed that nearly all licenses will incur some sort of attribution obligation, including 'permissive' licenses. On Fri,

Re: [License-discuss] [Non-DoD Source] Re: US Army Research Laboratory Open Source License proposal

2016-08-06 Thread Kevin Fleming
Thanks for summarizing; I think you and I agree :-) I cannot envision any sort of contract which is designed to allow access to the code, with modification, distribution, derivation, and other permissions, but which also allows the USG to enforce any sort of restrictions on those activities (given

Re: [License-discuss] licenses for hosted services

2016-08-05 Thread Kevin Fleming
Keep in mind also that if you have any plans to accept contributions to this codebase (having it be an open source project, instead of just open source software), using such a license could be quite an impediment. Having additional copyright holders, who are potentially involved in any actions you

Re: [License-discuss] [Non-DoD Source] Re: US Army Research Laboratory Open Source License proposal

2016-08-03 Thread Kevin Fleming
Maybe I'm just being naive here, but if the USG does not hold copyright on this code (in the US), what ownership rights does it have? As far as I know there are no other relevant intellectual property rights involved here, since it's clearly not a trade secret, and patents are not involved. There c

Re: [License-discuss] Source-attribution licenses and Javascript compatibility

2016-05-31 Thread Kevin Fleming
I agree completely with Philippe; a statement such as you proposed does not modify the license, but it indicates to downstream consumers the scenarios under which they could expect you to (potentially) enforce the attribution requirement, and situations under which you do not intend to enforce the

Re: [License-discuss] Life cycle of a license with and without binary attribution clause

2016-02-10 Thread Kevin Fleming
For (a), as you'll hear from everyone else, you won't get legal advice on this list, you need to get that from your own counsel. In my personal opinion, as a non-lawyer but an avid open source advocate/consumer/producer, I believe the 'attribution on binary distribution' provisions are intended to

Re: [License-discuss] Short permissive no attribution required open source license

2015-10-20 Thread Kevin Fleming
The zlib license is OSI-approved and does not require attribution: http://opensource.org/licenses/Zlib On Tue, Oct 20, 2015 at 4:39 AM, Sagar wrote: > Hi, > > Is there a short permissive OSI approved license that doesn't require > attribution? > > The popular permissive open source licenses lik

Re: [License-discuss] BSD 3-clause and copyright notices

2015-10-06 Thread Kevin Fleming
On Fri, Oct 2, 2015 at 12:32 PM, Zluty Sysel wrote: > Thanks for the suggestion. > All options will be considered but our original hope was to be able to > require attribution to everybody with some exceptions (i.e. certain > customers). > This is not a 'waiver', it's a second license. Your sta

Re: [License-discuss] Source code distribution for web application dual licensed under GNU GPL Affero Public License? [closed]

2015-09-16 Thread Kevin Fleming
The statement 'dual licensed' is illogical here, as only only license is named (AGPLv3). Since the only license named is the AGPLv3, you'll need to abide by its terms and obligations, as would anyone who receives a copy of the software from you. Generally speaking, anyone who is given access to use

Re: [License-discuss] Companies that encourage license violations

2015-09-08 Thread Kevin Fleming
Pam, thanks for bringing your considerable legal attention to this, as I find it fascinating :-) The genesis of my statement (which I purposely left ambiguous because IANAL and IANYL and many here are) is that a set of source files that do not have any copyright/license statements included and a s

Re: [License-discuss] Companies that encourage license violations

2015-08-31 Thread Kevin Fleming
Right, this is potentially a 'dual-license' scenario, where the copyright holders distribute the code under two (or more) distinct licenses, in separate distributions. If you receive the code under a non-open-source license, the presence of the same (or similar) code in another location under an op

Re: [License-discuss] Option to fall back from GPL to ASL

2015-08-26 Thread Kevin Fleming
Also, in this situation, the copyright holders of BAR (and thus the licensors) are the parties that would have standing to pursue any action against a distributor who distributes a derivative work of BAR without following the terms of its license (the GPL, or a commercial license). If someone has l

Re: [License-discuss] Companies that encourage license violations

2015-08-26 Thread Kevin Fleming
On Fri, Aug 21, 2015 at 3:19 PM, Chris Ochs wrote: > Some of these addons are themselves open source. The majority of the time > the authors of these are not including the open source license. Which I > think is legally ok, I'm guessing it actually just creates a dual license, > but not an atto

Re: [License-discuss] Fwd: Question regarding GNU Terms of use

2015-06-18 Thread Kevin Fleming
In that situation, the person who produced the new work will *not* be able to restrict copy, use, sale, etc. of the new work, since it is a derived work of the GPL- and/or MIT-licensed original works. The combined work's license will necessarily need to be compatible with (if not identical to) the

Re: [License-discuss] Undistributable binaries and network services

2015-03-14 Thread Kevin Fleming
Most open source software licenses do not control usage in any way, so they have no impact on the scenario you have imposed. The AGPL is likely the most notable exception, since it specifically defines this scenario as constituting a license-controlled event. On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 8:07 PM, ChanM