Re: Procedure for using an approved license

2002-10-21 Thread John Cowan
Rod Dixon, J.D., LL.M. scripsit: > There is also the questionable premise that a software license may > lawfully extinguish the floor and ceiling of derivative works...i.e. under > copyright law some "modifications" need no permission from the copyright > holder because they are fair uses, other "

Re: Procedure for using an approved license

2002-10-21 Thread Rod Dixon, J.D., LL.M.
Mitchell, I think you are connecting, but disagreeing that the premise you raise should result in the conclusion made. Yes, courts disagree about the meaning of derivative work in certain contexts, but the statute is clear in other circumstances that the use of "modification" is not. As I see it,

RE: Procedure for using an approved license

2002-10-20 Thread Casey Mitchell
We're not connecting here. My point is that "derivative work" as used in the copyright statute is an unclear term. And that the definition of derivative work varies among jurisdictions. And that the MPL does not, as Larry suggests, use a "derivative work" standard for precisely that reason. I

RE: Procedure for using an approved license

2002-10-20 Thread Lawrence E. Rosen
> From: Rod Dixon [mailto:rod@;cyberspaces.org] > there is a lot being said here. To clarify one point at a > time, the use of "derivative work" should be in the copyright > law sense, not an unusual meaning gleamed from a > license...whether it is the MPL or any other license. In this > respe

Re: Procedure for using an approved license

2002-10-18 Thread Mitchell Baker
icusllc.com] Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2002 7:52 PM To: David Johnson; Dave Nelson; OpenSource Licensing Discussion Group Subject: RE: Procedure for using an approved license Open Source friends, I've been looking at MPL 1.1 as well. One of the reasons I would replace the word "Ne

Re: Procedure for using an approved license

2002-10-07 Thread Mitchell Baker
>>Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2002 7:52 PM >>To: David Johnson; Dave Nelson; OpenSource Licensing Discussion Group >>Subject: RE: Procedure for using an approved license >> >> >>Open Source friends, >> >>I've been looking at MPL 1.1 as well. One

Re: Procedure for using an approved license

2002-10-07 Thread Mitchell Baker
>*NOTE* MPL 1.2 is solely used in conjecture for the purposes of this email! > > > >Thanks for help understanding this too! >James > > > > >>-Original Message- >>From: David Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >>Sent: Sunday, October 06, 200

Re: Procedure for using an approved license

2002-10-07 Thread Dave Nelson
s email! Thanks for help understanding this too! James -Original Message- From: David Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2002 10:03 PM To: Dave N

RE: Procedure for using an approved license

2002-10-06 Thread Lawrence E. Rosen
2 PM > To: David Johnson; Dave Nelson; OpenSource Licensing Discussion Group > Subject: RE: Procedure for using an approved license > > > Open Source friends, > > I've been looking at MPL 1.1 as well. One of the reasons I > would replace the word "Netscape" with

Re: Procedure for using an approved license

2002-10-06 Thread Bruce Dodson
For what it's worth, so far Netscape has been very responsible and careful about not making ad-hoc changes to their license. Look at the trouble they've been going to recently, to try and get all of their code MPL/GPL/LGPL tri-licensed. It would have been easy to take advantage of their right to

RE: Procedure for using an approved license

2002-10-06 Thread James E. Harrell, Jr.
Thanks for help understanding this too! James >-Original Message- >From: David Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2002 10:03 PM >To: Dave Nelson; OpenSource Licensing Discussion Group >Subject: Re: Procedure for using an approved license > &g

Re: Procedure for using an approved license

2002-10-06 Thread David Johnson
On Sunday 06 October 2002 02:10 pm, Dave Nelson wrote: > I wish to use the Mozilla 1.1 license, but don't know the exact > procedures here. > > I copied the Mozilla 1.1 license from your site, replace 'Netscape' with > my company, and 'Mozilla' with my product, and Netscape trademarks with > mine.

Procedure for using an approved license

2002-10-06 Thread Dave Nelson
I wish to use the Mozilla 1.1 license, but don't know the exact procedures here. I copied the Mozilla 1.1 license from your site, replace 'Netscape' with my company, and 'Mozilla' with my product, and Netscape trademarks with mine. No other changes were made. Then added a line under the title sta