Re: Response to comments on Intel's proposed BSD+Patent license

2001-11-04 Thread Randy Kramer
Russel, Thanks for your response! I'm not exactly clear on what Intel proposes for patented software, or the implications thereof, but I imagine that will become clear as I continue to skim the thread. OK, I went back and reread some of the thread -- I guess they propose to give a royalty free

Re: Response to comments on Intel's proposed BSD+Patent license

2001-11-02 Thread Matthew C. Weigel
On Fri, 2 Nov 2001, Russell Nelson wrote: > Intel can't solve those problems but it should be commended for doing > what it can (even if it isn't doing everything that we think > possible). Yes. Although my one response to this was in the negative, I *do* think it's great that Intel is trying.

Re: Response to comments on Intel's proposed BSD+Patent license

2001-11-02 Thread Russell Nelson
Randy Kramer writes: > 1. Use (and modification) of software can be restricted by copyright but > might also be restricted by patent (if the software uses something which > is patented). Because U.S. law relating to intellectual property has been corrupted. > Aside: I would feel cheated (mis

Re: Response to comments on Intel's proposed BSD+Patent license

2001-11-02 Thread Russell Nelson
Stamnes, Michelle writes: > It is not logical to say that a license that grants MORE rights than the BSD > is not "open". Agreed. And yet, we don't have logic to work from, we have the Open Source Definition. -- -russ nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://russnelson.com Crynwr sells support for

Re: Response to comments on Intel's proposed BSD+Patent license

2001-11-02 Thread Randy Kramer
I've skimmed this thread, but don't know if I got the point. I'd like to try to make a few simple statements and questions, and have somebody tell me if I'm on the right page or not: 1. Use (and modification) of software can be restricted by copyright but might also be restricted by patent (if t

Re: Response to comments on Intel's proposed BSD+Patent license

2001-11-01 Thread Forrest J. Cavalier III
> Finally, under the proposed license, you can use the software in Solaris or > any other proprietary OS or in any other piece of software (in addition to > the GPL based OS's). You just don't have a patent license; so you are no > worse off than with the BSD license. > Yes, that point was made

Re: Response to comments on Intel's proposed BSD+Patent license

2001-10-31 Thread Matthew C. Weigel
On Wed, 31 Oct 2001, Stamnes, Michelle wrote: > Finally, under the proposed license, you can use the software in > Solaris or any other proprietary OS or in any other piece of software > (in addition to the GPL based OS's). You just don't have a patent > license; so you are no worse off than wit

Response to comments on Intel's proposed BSD+Patent license

2001-10-31 Thread Stamnes, Michelle
There seem to be a number of comments on the BSD+ Patent license we have proposed that claim that the license is not "open" because it only licenses a specific product; i.e., Linux. First, this is not true. The patent license that is extended is for ANY OS that is licensed under the GPL. It m