Re: GDP glossary question: complex meters

On 26 Feb 2008, at 07:39, Kurt Kroon wrote: BACKGROUND We now have a number of different terms to refer to several closely related concepts: * polymeter * polymetric time signature * double time signature * compound time signature ... How can we normalize the terminology? You can't :-

Re: GDP glossary question: complex meters

On 2008/02/28 11:54 PM, "Anh Hai Trinh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: * compound time sig -- this is a well established term refering to meter such as 6/8, 9/8, 6/4, etc. in contrast to simple meters such as 3/8, 3/4, etc. >> >> I just wanted to point out here that coumpond time signa

Re: GDP glossary question: complex meters

On 2008/02/28 11:34 PM, "Anh Hai Trinh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ok I was being lazy. The Harvard dict 4th ed. defines > >> Polymeter. The simultaneous use of two or more meters. > > and there you have it. The term "sequential polymeter" is a contradiction. The *New* Harvard Dictionary of M

Re: GDP glossary question: complex meters

>>> * compound time sig -- this is a well established term refering to meter >>> such as 6/8, 9/8, 6/4, etc. in contrast to simple meters such as 3/8, 3/4, >>> etc. > > I just wanted to point out here that coumpond time signature is also another > well-established term that means something other t

Re: GDP glossary question: complex meters

> Wow ... and I don't have $295 in couch cushion change to spend (every year) > on a subscription to Grove Music Online. (You must get a discount My school pays for it :p > Wikipedia IS NOT an authoritative source ... > >> polymeter implies polyrhythm and therefore is >> equivalent to your "simu

Re: GDP glossary question: complex meters

On Thu, 28 Feb 2008 23:03:01 -0800 Kurt Kroon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 2008/02/28 6:12 PM, "Anh Hai Trinh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > > I have never heard the term polymeter. It does not show up in Grove > > Music Online (actually once but refering to poetic meter), not a > > go

Re: GDP glossary question: complex meters

On 2008/02/28 6:12 PM, "Anh Hai Trinh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I have never heard the term polymeter. It does not show up in Grove Music > Online (actually once but refering to poetic meter), not a good sign! Wow ... and I don't have $295 in couch cushion change to spend (every year) on a

Re: GDP glossary question: complex meters

* additive time sig -- could mean sth like (3 + 3 + 2)/8 or could mean irregular meters a la Messian That should be Messiaen, see . ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http:/

Re: GDP glossary question: complex meters

How can we normalize the terminology? Here are my thoughts on the matter, trying to distill this into a controlled lexicon -- * polymeter -- the most generic term * sequential polymeter -- Ralph's definition * regular * irregular * simultaneous polymeter -- Valentin's d

Re: GDP glossary question: complex meters

On 2/26/08 5:39 AM, "Palmer, Ralph" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, Kurt - > > When I brought up "my" definition, it certainly was not intended to be > exclusive (as in the only definition). Nor did I perceive it that way. > I was trying to point out that there was an alternative meaning to po

RE: GDP glossary question: complex meters

Hi, Kurt - When I brought up "my" definition, it certainly was not intended to be exclusive (as in the only definition). I was trying to point out that there was an alternative meaning to polymeter. I have no easy answer to the problem(s), especially since I think polymeter or complex meter can re

Re: GDP glossary question: complex meters

2008/2/26, Kurt Kroon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Hi Kurt, > [I'm not interested in > resolving that discussion, just standardizing the terminology we use.] LOL -- for a short while I thought Graham was writing this mail :) > So ... what are your thoughts? I'm OK with the "simultaneous"/"sequential