Re: The advantage of modules?

2001-01-08 Thread Alan Cox
> Although I haven't been involved for over 8 years, it us unlikely that > the word "SCSI" has been given up as some generic aspirin. SCSI still > means the stuff specified in the 519 Page document copyrighted by > ANSI, called "SMALL COMPUTER SYSTEM INTERFACE - 2", Dated May 20, 1991, > and the f

Re: The advantage of modules?

2001-01-08 Thread Richard B. Johnson
On Mon, 8 Jan 2001, Dan Hollis wrote: > On Mon, 8 Jan 2001, Russell King wrote: > > Seriously though, you can't depreciate a term for referring to a type of > > bus without providing some other term to describe said bus. > > You need to distinguish between SCSI-the-protocol and > SCSI-the-physic

Re: The advantage of modules?

2001-01-08 Thread Dan Hollis
On Mon, 8 Jan 2001, Russell King wrote: > Seriously though, you can't depreciate a term for referring to a type of > bus without providing some other term to describe said bus. You need to distinguish between SCSI-the-protocol and SCSI-the-physical-layer. The term "SCSI" alone is simply too ambig

Re: The advantage of modules?

2001-01-08 Thread Russell King
Dan Hollis writes: > On Mon, 8 Jan 2001, Russell King wrote: > > I don't believe that is what it's trying to say. There have been instances > > in the past where unplugging a SCSI device from a powered on SCSI bus can > > result in blown terminator power fuses and the like. Whether this still >

Re: The advantage of modules?

2001-01-08 Thread Dan Hollis
On Mon, 8 Jan 2001, Russell King wrote: > > so my take is unless you explicitly use hotplug devices (I wasn't), that > > it is much safer to unload the driver, unattach/attach scsi devices, and > > then reload the driver (which will scan the scsi bus for devices), which > > you need modules for. >

Re: The advantage of modules?

2001-01-08 Thread Russell King
Michael Meissner writes: > Quoting from drivers/scsi/scsi.c: > > /* >* Usage: echo "scsi add-single-device 0 1 2 3" >/proc/scsi/scsi >* with "0 1 2 3" replaced by your "Host Channel Id Lun". >* Consider this feature BETA. >* CAUTION: This is not for hotp

Re: The advantage of modules?

2001-01-08 Thread Michael Meissner
On Mon, Jan 08, 2001 at 07:26:01PM +0100, Ookhoi wrote: > >3) Having drivers as modules means that you can remove them and > >reload them. When I was working in an office, I had one scsi > >controller that was a different brand (Adaptec) than the main scsi > >controller (Tek

Re: The advantage of modules?

2001-01-08 Thread Ookhoi
Hi Michael, > On Fri, Jan 05, 2001 at 10:50:20PM -0600, Evan Thompson wrote: > > I'd like to know (I know, I'm being slightly off topic, while still > > staying on topic, so I'm on topic...er...yes) if there is any > > advantage, be it memory-wise or architectuarally wise, to use > > modules? > >

Re: The advantage of modules?

2001-01-08 Thread Michael Meissner
On Fri, Jan 05, 2001 at 10:50:20PM -0600, Evan Thompson wrote: > I'd like to know (I know, I'm being slightly off topic, while still > staying on topic, so I'm on topic...er...yes) if there is any > advantage, be it memory-wise or architectuarally wise, to use modules? > > I already know the obvi

Re: The advantage of modules?

2001-01-08 Thread Michael Meissner
On Sat, Jan 06, 2001 at 11:02:15AM +0100, J . A . Magallon wrote: > > On 2001.01.06 Drew Bertola wrote: > > My best reasons are... > > > > Development: You don't have to recompile the kernel a billion times > > while working on a driver, you just recompile the module. Also, you > > can debug, u

Re: The advantage of modules?

2001-01-06 Thread J . A . Magallon
On 2001.01.06 Drew Bertola wrote: > My best reasons are... > > Development: You don't have to recompile the kernel a billion times > while working on a driver, you just recompile the module. Also, you > can debug, unload, fix, recompile, reload a module to add or fix > pieces of it all (hopeful

Re: The advantage of modules?

2001-01-05 Thread Drew Bertola
My best reasons are... Development: You don't have to recompile the kernel a billion times while working on a driver, you just recompile the module. Also, you can debug, unload, fix, recompile, reload a module to add or fix pieces of it all (hopefully) without rebooting. Practical usage: When I