Re: [IFWP] All .us users to come under surveillance and censorship control of US Gov

2002-03-26 Thread Tamar Frankel
Can they not limit liabilities by contract? At 04:21 PM 3/25/2002 -0800, you wrote: >Hello Stephen -- > >My take on all this is that; > >First: The .us TLD has been a wasteland since it was created. >(This is why I have always avoided any us of .US;-)... > >and that; > >Second: Now it is going to

Re: [IFWP] Re: [names] ICANN as a concept v. this ICANN

2000-01-14 Thread Tamar Frankel
time, how about a longer conversation? You can call in the evenings (508 820-1889). Best regards. Tamar At 12:10 PM 1/14/00 -0500, you wrote: >At 08:30 AM 1/14/00 , Tamar Frankel wrote: > >>In the US legitimacy is gained more by the trustworthiness of the system >>than that

Re: Dyson's reply RE: [IFWP] Representations to WTO Conference

1999-11-24 Thread Tamar Frankel
I must go, but will return in a few days and we can continue the discussion. Thanks for responding. Tamar At 01:22 PM 11/24/99 -0800, you wrote: >Richard and all, > >Richard J. Sexton wrote: > >> >>I did not conclude that all is lost, so long as I see some progress. The >> >>alternatives scare me

Re: Dyson's reply RE: [IFWP] Representations to WTO Conference

1999-11-24 Thread Tamar Frankel
I do not think we disagree. I certainly agree with Larry Lessig, and I did read his book. We disagree on the timing. I am willing to be more patient, and hope that people like you will continue to demand more accountability. I did not conclude that all is lost, so long as I see some progress. The

Re: Dyson's reply RE: [IFWP] Representations to WTO Conference

1999-11-24 Thread Tamar Frankel
Ken: I was the one who did not believe in the selection process of ICANN's board and who spoke, whenever I could, for membership and election. But I also recognize that ICANN has to be built. The current board is composed of people whom I respect. It has the support of the government, conditioned

Re: [IFWP]Berkman Workshop in LA

1999-10-09 Thread Tamar Frankel
Ann Sching's book contains transparency mainly under lawsgoverning state legislatures and state governments. Simon Lorne is an expert on the rules that govern transparency in the US government in general, not only the SEC. The US government and the US legislatures are not a bad model to examine (n

Re: [IFWP] Today's ICANN's Berlin Meeting (Wedesday)

1999-05-27 Thread Tamar Frankel
To those who brought so many people from all over the world to the meeting in Berlin. Many many thanks and compliments. You are breaking new grounds to permit global open meetings. Tamar At 03:31 AM 5/27/99 +0200, you wrote: >Deutsche Telekom provided Net connectivity, and Germanynet augmented

Re: [IFWP] Re: Internet Governance?!

1999-04-13 Thread Tamar Frankel
Governance can be viewed as an efficient mechanism for problem solving. If spam is a problem for so many parties that a combined effort avoids duplication and makes the solution less expensive, then a "governance" or "self-governance" mechanism is likely to arise. Whether it will be world-wide dep

Re: [IFWP] Singapore Update

1999-03-08 Thread Tamar Frankel
One comment on constituencies: I define constituencies in terms of the legitimate objectives and well being of the Internet as a whole: (i) those who provide the infrastructure of the Internet. Without them there would not be an Internet (ii) those who are affected by the Internet, such as the l

Re: [IFWP] (no subject)

1999-02-17 Thread Tamar Frankel
I would like to subscribe to the Asia-Pacific forum. Thank you. Tamar Frankel At 09:34 AM 2/15/99 -0800, you wrote: >An Asia-Pacific Forum has JUST been created. > >List name: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >List address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >List Desc: ap-forum >To join: send an e-mail t

Re: [IFWP] Re: Central Authority

1999-02-16 Thread Tamar Frankel
ere do you draw the line? I believe that the line is drawn where competition and the law do not adequately and efficiently protect users, and may reduce the trust in the rest of the servicers. Tamar At 11:18 AM 2/16/99 -0500, you wrote: >I agree with Ken. > >As I understand her, Tamar F

Re: Look at the known facts, not the clouds.

1999-02-09 Thread Tamar Frankel
Must we choose? Can we not have a representation of both? Tamar At 09:31 AM 2/9/99 -0500, you wrote: >I agree that membership will not likely attract the world population en >mass. But every reference to "the lists" as being the only voice >ignores people who do not use these lists or the Englis

Re: UNSUBSCRIBE

1999-02-09 Thread Tamar Frankel
Please do not unsubscribe me but keep me on the list Tamar Frankel At 08:09 AM 2/9/99 -0800, you wrote: > > > > YOUR NAME HERE Boston University School of Law 765 Commonwealth Avenue Boston, MA 02215 EMail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [Membership] The People's Republic of ICANN?

1999-02-08 Thread Tamar Frankel
I understand Jonathan's point to be that the interests of activist-Internet users may not coincide with the interests of passive users, and that passive users should have representation with all other interests that affect and are affected by the Internet. After all, passive users affect the Inter

Re: A little off topic

1999-02-04 Thread Tamar Frankel
I am not an intellectual property maven, but will say this anyway. In our discussion "property" is not the thing itself but the legal relationship relating to a thing. One of the rights of an owner of property is the right to exclude others from the use of the property. Some property rights are lo

[ifwp] Re: what ICANN is up to [re open Board meetings] ...

1999-01-14 Thread Tamar Frankel
Just two comments: First, the applicable law is not the law governing individual members of the board (persons or corporations) but the law governing the institution--ICANN. Second, the law applicable to a contract among institutions is usually the law in which the contract is made. The internal