Seth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>An ignorant list member wrote:
and
>If I were to interpret the law as you and the
>other idiots on the list suggest
and
>The AHRA protects the consumers and the manufacters
>from the legal idiots like yourself
and
>Perhaps some of you need to grow up
The r
"Thomas, Ferris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>The hurdle to winning the argument that trades are legal (and
>not infringement on copyright) would be to convincingly define a
>trade as a "noncommercial" exchange... This assumes that it is a
>product for product with neither parties coming out
>
Dan Frakes joins the fray:
(talks about the AHRA)
>Here's a part you didn't quote:
>
> Subject to sections 107 through 120, the owner of copyright under
> this title has the exclusive rights to do and to authorize any of
> the following:
>
> (1) to reproduce the copyrighted w
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> Please! I just want to read about MDs and Japanese Love Holidays!
How about free internet service?
http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/991221/ca_on24_in_11.html
I have tried NetZero and it works well. I downloaded www.bluelight.com
but haven't had a chance to install it
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* goobster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on Mon, 27 Dec 1999
| analog recording medium, or based on the noncommercial
| use by a consumer of such a device or medium for
"use" means use, not distribution or redistribution.
'nuff said.
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somebody didn't read section 1008 correctly. Here it is again.
http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/1008.html
Sec. 1008. Prohibition on certain infringement actions
No action may be brought under this title alleging infringement of
copyright based
on the manufacture, importation, or distr
Sec. 1008. Prohibition on certain infringement actions
No action may be brought under this title alleging
infringement of copyright based on the manufacture,
importation, or distribution of a
digital audio recording device, a digital audio
recording medium, an analog recording device, or an
an
Wow, you backed me up on something (the Constitution cannot be
superseded by any law), in a sort of back-handed way, but cool! I
liked your post about free speech in the U.S.A., too. I see an
intellectual honesty I didn't expect.
To Jeff and those who share his point of view, what I described
Please! I just want to read about MDs and Japanese Love Holidays! It's
the same people expressing the same opinions over & over (notably Salzberg,
the Rat, and Magic).
This was the last straw for me, from Magic:
>> "No action may be brought under this title alleging
>> infringement of copyrigh
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* David Fincher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on Mon, 27 Dec 1999
| With all the discussion about copyright, I have a related question that
| I'd like some illumination on. If I have my own copy of a cassette, and
| the cassette is now defective (eaten by a
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* "Jeffrey E. Salzberg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on Mon, 27 Dec 1999
| Here, anyone has the right to proclaim to the world that s/he is a
| thief.
I love this guy :).
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* "J. Coon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on Mon, 27 Dec 1999
| or based on the noncommercial use by a consumer of such a device or
^^^
| medium for making digital musical recordings or analog musical
| recordings.
That one wo
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* Stainless Steel Rat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on Mon, 27 Dec 1999
| All of which was superceded by the Copyright Act of 1976, better known
| internationally as the Berne Agreements, which is explicitly clear as to
| what you are allowed to copy. The AH
Yes In the words of George Clinton, formerly of Parliament
Funkadelic, who has had a hellacious time with the recording industry,
and doesn't mind one bit if you sample his incredibly creative
copyrighted works because he digs it and knows it is good
Seth,
Couple of questions:
>Note, that from the previous sections of the AHRA
>which you can look up yourself, only home recording
>equiptment that contains SCMS and analog devices that
>comply with the law are covered by the previous quote
>(this excludes MP3's and computer CD-R drives).
Does
An ignorant list member wrote:
--
Please read
http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/106.html
You will notice that the rights to copy any
copyrighted work are EXCLUSIVE to the copyright owner,
and since you do NOT own the copyright, you are
breaching that copyright, an
From: Magic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> Trading is just the act of swapping one thing for another. The "trading"
> referred to on the newsgroup or on this list is usually of pirated
material.
> The scale of the act does not make it any more legal, it just makes it not
> worth the industries time pers
Seth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Have any of you bothered to read the American
>Home Recording Act of 1976 and it's 1992 Ammendment
>before showing the list your ignorance regarding the
>issue? Judging from most of your posts it would seem
>to me that you haven't only not read it, but you
After following the thread for a little while I thought to chime in. While
I'm not a lawyer (and from what I gather, neither is anyone who's commented
on this is, either), I've done a little searching on this slow day at work.
>From the RIAA homepage (http://www.riaa.com/musicleg/ml_ol.htm):
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David Fincher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>With all the discussion about copyright, I have a related
>question that I'd like some illumination on. If I have my own
>copy of a cassette, and the cassette is now defective (eaten by
>a player, magnetized, baked in the sun), is it legal for me to
>
===
= NB: Over 50% of this message is QUOTED, please =
= be more selective when quoting text =
===
I'm sure it's split because I'm out of town a f
> The law is simple and straight to the point.
> It is neither illegal or unethical to copy CD's to MD
> or nearly and other derivation involving copying or
> recording.
For *personal* use. The minute you transfer that copy to someone
else, it's no longer personal.
> There simply is no ethi
> I would also like to see this added:
>
> You may not misquote sections of the AHRA or other legal
> documents
> relating to copyright issues to attempt to justify illegal
> activities.
Ah, but in America, at least (which is not, as you so aptly pointed
out, the entire world), that wo
> "No action may be brought under this title alleging
> infringement of copyright based on the manufacture,
> importation, or distribution of a digital audio
> recording device, a digital audio recording medium, an
> analog recording device, or an analog recording
> medium, or based on the noncom
Ok, I'll keep this really really really simple. Having read most of the
documents covering copyright law fully, here's what you are and are not
allowed to do - the differences between UK and US are so small in this area
it's not really worth worrying about.
> You may NOT copy ANYTHING withou
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From: Sydtech <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, December 27, 1999 5:26 AM
Subject: Re: MD: MD trading
>
> A small point of clarification:
>
> "Trading" traditionally refers to people *trading* (i.e. not selling)
> bootlegs of unreleased recor
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From: David Fincher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, December 27, 1999 6:35 AM
Subject: MD: Copyright question
>
> With all the discussion about copyright, I have a related question that
> I'd like some illumination on. If I have my own cop
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From: Seth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, December 27, 1999 5:56 AM
Subject: MD: It's that time again (the AHRA and copying)
> Have any of you bothered to read the American
> Home Recording Act of 1976 and it's 1992 Ammendment
Which
Who's gonna ask? If you got a copy on cassette, go for it. They are
junky things anyway.
David Fincher wrote:
>
> With all the discussion about copyright, I have a related question that
> I'd like some illumination on. If I have my own copy of a cassette, and
> the cassette is now defective
Hey list,
I haven't posted in a long time, but some of you
who go way back will remember me and the many flame
wars I got into over this issue and others. I think
it's time someone cleared the air here. It seems that
every so often we have to go down this road of
"Illegal Copying" and poi
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> | The core of United Staes copyright law is the Constitution, laid down
> | by our founding fathers. You perhaps do not understand the AHRA or
> | the United States Constitution. See below.
>
> All of which was superceded by the Copyright Act of 1976, better
> known internationally as the Be
> The converstion was both about ehtics and the law. No one is taking
> anything from anyone when you trade an MD.
It's been pointed out to you (several times) that that's *exactly*
what's happening. You're taking property from someone who hasn't
authorized you can do so.
You can rave and s
> My internet connection only operates
> at 26.4 even though my modem supports 56k, think it's the lines because I
> tested it with my laptop that does work at almost full speed other
> locations, and it still goes 26.4, but I'd like to listen to the shows.
You're right - it's the lines. Poor 56
It has been my experience that dropouts are usually a *player* problem
and not a *disc* problem. (This is not to say that all discs will be
problem-free.)
My Sharp MD-X5 developed a distaste for some Maxell discs a while
back, yet the same discs played and recorded just fine in other
machines. O
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