Re: MD: It's that time again (the AHRA and copying)

1999-12-30 Thread Magic
From: J. Coon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 1999 4:47 AM Subject: Re: MD: It's that time again (the AHRA and copying) > Maybe I missed something here. Isn't that what we have been talking > about? Making recording

Re: MD: It's that time again (the AHRA and copying)

1999-12-30 Thread Stainless Steel Rat
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 * "J. Coon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on Tue, 28 Dec 1999 | Maybe I missed something here. Isn't that what we have been talking | about? Making recordings for our own use. What started this was someone asking if it is legal to make recordings for *anot

Re: MD: It's that time again (the AHRA and copying)

1999-12-30 Thread Magic
From: Eric Woudenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 1999 3:58 AM Subject: Re: MD: It's that time again (the AHRA and copying) > > "Magic" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > I beg to differ -

Re: MD: It's that time again (the AHRA and copying)

1999-12-30 Thread J. Coon
Jeffrey E. Salzberg wrote: > > > Yes, but the US copyright code has a clause in it particularly > > exempting home recordists. > > Only those who are recording material for their own use. Maybe I missed something here. Isn't that what we have been talking about? Making recordings for our own

Re: MD: It's that time again (the AHRA and copying)

1999-12-30 Thread Jeffrey E. Salzberg
> Yes, but the US copyright code has a clause in it particularly > exempting home recordists. Only those who are recording material for their own use. = Jeffrey E. Salzberg, Lighting Designer http://www.cloud9.net/~salzberg ==

Re: MD: It's that time again (the AHRA and copying)

1999-12-30 Thread Neil
On Mon, 27 Dec 1999 15:33:56 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I tried to explain why the below was so (having a formal law > school education on the subject and having practiced copyright law to > a limited extent) and how it came to pass, and found myself the > subject of scurrilous attac

Re: MD: It's that time again (the AHRA and copying)

1999-12-30 Thread Jeffrey E. Salzberg
> > OK, it says that you may transfer devices and media; now quote the > > part where it says you may transfer *content*. > > ".for making digital musical recordings or analog musical > recordings." > > > Hint: you can't. > > I beg to differ - what is a musical recording if it isn't conten

Re: MD: It's that time again (the AHRA and copying)

1999-12-28 Thread Magic
- Original Message - From: Jeffrey E. Salzberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Seth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, December 27, 1999 3:34 AM Subject: Re: MD: It's that time again (the AHRA and copying) > > > "No action may

Re: MD: It's that time again (the AHRA and copying)

1999-12-28 Thread Steve
My God, someone else knows what they are talking about. I feel almost giddy. I love the e-mail address. I might try setting up a new separate e-mail for MD-L only so I can speak the truth without people on the list harassing me through personal e-mail.

Re: MD: It's that time again (the AHRA and copying)

1999-12-28 Thread Steve
In the U.S., the IRS has decided that in-kind trades of services are taxable income (you fix my car, I'll chop down your tree), and the IRS has won on that point. This would favor Jeff's point to some degree -- if in-kind trades are a form of income, they are commercial activity. It is absolute

Re: MD: It's that time again (the AHRA and copying)

1999-12-28 Thread Jeffrey E. Salzberg
> So > piracy, and its commercial impact, have nothing to do with home > recording, or home recorders. . . .And copyrights aren't meant solely to protect against large-scale pirates. = Jeffrey E. Salzberg, Lighting Designer http://www.cloud9.net/~salz

Re: MD: It's that time again (the AHRA and copying)

1999-12-28 Thread J. Coon
Here is an interesting statement. http://www.hrrc.org/gklein_statement.html FOr the web impared, let me quote part of it. (Note this com e under the fair use principle) Home Recording Should Not Be Confused With Commercial Piracy The fears that have been expressed over giving consumers the a

Re: MD: It's that time again (the AHRA and copying)

1999-12-27 Thread Adhareshwar
Seth, Couple of questions: >Note, that from the previous sections of the AHRA >which you can look up yourself, only home recording >equiptment that contains SCMS and analog devices that >comply with the law are covered by the previous quote >(this excludes MP3's and computer CD-R drives). Does

Re: MD: It's that time again (the AHRA and copying)

1999-12-27 Thread Dan Frakes
Seth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Have any of you bothered to read the American >Home Recording Act of 1976 and it's 1992 Ammendment >before showing the list your ignorance regarding the >issue? Judging from most of your posts it would seem >to me that you haven't only not read it, but you

Re: MD: It's that time again (the AHRA and copying)

1999-12-27 Thread Jeffrey E. Salzberg
> The law is simple and straight to the point. > It is neither illegal or unethical to copy CD's to MD > or nearly and other derivation involving copying or > recording. For *personal* use. The minute you transfer that copy to someone else, it's no longer personal. > There simply is no ethi

Re: MD: It's that time again (the AHRA and copying)

1999-12-27 Thread Jeffrey E. Salzberg
> "No action may be brought under this title alleging > infringement of copyright based on the manufacture, > importation, or distribution of a digital audio > recording device, a digital audio recording medium, an > analog recording device, or an analog recording > medium, or based on the noncom

Re: MD: It's that time again (the AHRA and copying)

1999-12-27 Thread Magic
- Original Message - From: Seth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, December 27, 1999 5:56 AM Subject: MD: It's that time again (the AHRA and copying) > Have any of you bothered to read the American > Home Recording Act of 1976 and it&#

MD: It's that time again (the AHRA and copying)

1999-12-27 Thread Seth
Hey list, I haven't posted in a long time, but some of you who go way back will remember me and the many flame wars I got into over this issue and others. I think it's time someone cleared the air here. It seems that every so often we have to go down this road of "Illegal Copying" and poi