RE: beginning and testing

2014-10-08 Thread Mark Hedges
-Original Message- From: Paul Johnson [mailto:p...@pjcj.net] Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2014 12:39 PM On Tue, Oct 07, 2014 at 08:23:58AM -0500, Patton, Billy wrote: > I’m just not sure where to start. > Any recommendations would help. I'm going to give you some different, and perhaps som

Re: beginning and testing

2014-10-08 Thread Paul Johnson
On Tue, Oct 07, 2014 at 08:23:58AM -0500, Patton, Billy wrote: > I’m just not sure where to start. > Any recommendations would help. I'm going to give you some different, and perhaps somewhat heretical advice. You want to keep things simple. That's great. Your current application doesn't use mo

RE: beginning and testing

2014-10-07 Thread Mark Hedges
-Original Message- From: Vincent Veyron [mailto:vv.li...@wanadoo.fr] Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2014 2:32 PM On Tue, 7 Oct 2014 17:42:56 + Mark Hedges wrote: > > I have found Apache::Test extremely useful for testing web applications. > Don't let anyone tell you to run manual test

Re: beginning and testing

2014-10-07 Thread John Dunlap
That is heavily dependent on the architecture of your application but, architecture permitting, this is why you need to have different types of tests. In my case, I work with a SOFEA(Service Oriented Front End Architecture) which is the formal way of saying that I have a html/javascript front end w

Re: beginning and testing

2014-10-07 Thread Vincent Veyron
On Tue, 7 Oct 2014 17:42:56 + Mark Hedges wrote: > > I have found Apache::Test extremely useful for testing web applications. > Don't let anyone tell you to run manual tests, that is a recipe for confusion > and error as you try to modify code later. > How do you use that with a web ap

Re: beginning and testing

2014-10-07 Thread Jon
Hello Bill, Apache::Test is great. What kind of testing are you looking to do? Apache::Test is for testing your code (unit tests) and JMeter is for load testing your application / infrastructure (in my organization we classify this under UAT which the developers don't do). I agree with Mark tha

Re: beginning and testing

2014-10-07 Thread Holger Kipp
Dear Billy, > On 07.10.2014, at 15:26, "Patton, Billy" wrote: > > I’m rewriting/moving an app that hasn’t been touched in over 5 years. [..] > At my previous job we had a mantra “design for test” > > So from the very first file I create I want to be able to test each step as I > proceed. > I’

RE: beginning and testing

2014-10-07 Thread Mark Hedges
-Original Message- From: Patton, Billy [mailto:billy.pat...@h3net.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2014 6:24 AM To: modperl@perl.apache.org Subject: beginning and testing I'm rewriting/moving an app that hasn't been touched in over 5 years. The original developers have since left the c

Re: beginning and testing

2014-10-07 Thread Vincent Veyron
On Tue, 7 Oct 2014 08:23:58 -0500 "Patton, Billy" wrote: > > So from the very first file I create I want to be able to test each step as I > proceed. Hi Billy, I find that building a test application for a Web app is not easy. You have to code sample requests, and process the result to see i

Re: beginning and testing

2014-10-07 Thread Adam Prime
I'd start by reading this: http://perl.apache.org/docs/general/testing/testing.html I'd then suggest taking a look at some of the popular mod_perl modules, and check out how their test suites work. Most of the stuff you're going to find there will be very unit test specific. If you want to d