RE: [mb-style] Billboard's "top whatever"

2006-07-26 Thread Stefan Kestenholz
> Thanks for raising this issue. This is a pretty general issue for > MusicBrainz. There is a type of bootlegs out there that we have > traditionally not let into the database: collections of files > that are > distributed (usually illegally) using torrents. That might be a categorization

RE: [mb-style] Setting DJs as owners of Remix CDs

2006-07-26 Thread Stefan Kestenholz
> I am a firm believer in the ReleaseArtist should be the DJ mixer. > Especially when it is as blatant as being the artist on the > cover of the > CD. Almost any music store you walk into has these releases > under the DJ > who mixed them. I just like to bring it to attention that its dange

Re: [mb-style] Is french silly? :p (French capitalization rules)

2006-07-26 Thread Thomas Tholén
Citerar Mangled <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > 2006/7/27, Thomas Tholén <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > Sorry for the ignorance, but > > A) What's a "verbal phrase"? > > errr... now you criticize my english :D Nonono, I criticize my own english. I just simply didn't know what they meant. Thanks! //[bnw] > >

RE: [mb-style] Is french silly? :p (French capitalization rules)

2006-07-26 Thread Beth
I think it Is a mistake to simplify if there are standard rules known. After all, we could easily say, it's easier not to fight through artist intent with an artist that has all their name in lowercase (matchbox twenty) or Japanese tracks that have CAPS every second track on a release. I think we

Re: [mb-style] Is french silly? :p (French capitalization rules)

2006-07-26 Thread Nikki
On Thu, Jul 27, 2006 at 12:23:39AM +0200, Thomas Tholén wrote: > B) What's a "proper noun"? Proper nouns are things like names of people and places. --Nikki ___ Musicbrainz-style mailing list Musicbrainz-style@lists.musicbrainz.org http://lists.musicbr

Re: [mb-style] Is french silly? :p (French capitalization rules)

2006-07-26 Thread Alex Dupuy
Nikki writes: 1: Out of our 25 capitalisation standards, 19 are normal sentence case (i.e. first letter and all proper nouns capitalised), 4 are every word capitalised except for a short list of conjunctions etc. and just French and German are complex enough to require the editor to understand t

Re: [mb-style] Is french silly? :p (French capitalization rules)

2006-07-26 Thread Mangled
2006/7/27, Thomas Tholén <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Sorry for the ignorance, but A) What's a "verbal phrase"? errr... now you criticize my english :D "The panda eat bamboo last sunday" is a verbal phrase, a sentence. "The Mangled Panda" is not. B) What's a "proper noun"? "My name is Olivier" "My

Re: [mb-style] Is french silly? :p (French capitalization rules)

2006-07-26 Thread Thomas Tholén
Sorry for the ignorance, but A) What's a "verbal phrase"? B) What's a "proper noun"? //[bnw] ___ Musicbrainz-style mailing list Musicbrainz-style@lists.musicbrainz.org http://lists.musicbrainz.org/mailman/listinfo/musicbrainz-style

Re: [mb-style] Is french silly? :p (French capitalization rules)

2006-07-26 Thread Mangled
2006/7/26, Bogdan Butnaru <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: I'm curious, where did the the idea of the exceptions came from? They are not exceptions. That's a myth. They are rules. There are two rules: one for sentence (sentence mode), and one for non verbal phrases (cap if it match one of the two schemes)

Re: [mb-style] Is french silly? :p (French capitalization rules)

2006-07-26 Thread Mangled
Personally I much prefer standard sentence case because it's much simpler Being "simpler" doesn't make it "good", or even "better". Argument discarded, says the prosecutor :D [1] to use and is more consistent; capitalising half of the sentence and not the other half The so-called "exception

Re: [mb-style] Setting DJs as owners of Remix CDs

2006-07-26 Thread Chris Bransden
On 26/07/06, David Moran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I am a firm believer in the ReleaseArtist should be the DJ mixer. Especially when it is as blatant as being the artist on the cover of the CD. I would say only under these circumstances. it isn't rare to have a dance compilation mixed by some

Re: [mb-style] Setting DJs as owners of Remix CDs

2006-07-26 Thread Aaron Cooper
On 7/26/06, David Moran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Aaron Cooper wrote: > Hey everybody, > > I just wanted to raise this question to the community about whether or > not we should be setting the Release Artist to a DJ who has remixed a > collection of songs by other artists. The mod in question i

Re: [mb-style] Setting DJs as owners of Remix CDs

2006-07-26 Thread David Moran
Aaron Cooper wrote: Hey everybody, I just wanted to raise this question to the community about whether or not we should be setting the Release Artist to a DJ who has remixed a collection of songs by other artists. The mod in question is: http://musicbrainz.org/show/edit/?editid=4965003 The ot

Re: [mb-style] Is french silly? :p (French capitalization rules)

2006-07-26 Thread Nikki
On Wed, Jul 26, 2006 at 08:41:50PM +0200, Mangled wrote: > First, for these not really familiar with it: > a) French capitalization simply follows sentence mode cap: only the > first letter of the sentence is capped (and the first letter of proper > nouns of course). > b) In the case the title *is

Re: [mb-style] Billboard's "top whatever"

2006-07-26 Thread Jason Bouwmeester
I am the appointed Scretary of the StyleCouncil[*]. As such my job is to moderate the decision process. This is easier if I keep my personal POV out of the debate. Otherwise it is easy to inadvertedly direct the process into a direction of my liking. I believe that if I am conscious about my POV,

Re: [mb-style] Billboard's "top whatever"

2006-07-26 Thread Don Redman
On Wed, 26 Jul 2006 21:37:40 +0200, Jason Bouwmeester wrote: Finally I have kept my personal POV out of this mail. Maybe I'll send a separate mail later. DonRedman How come? Pardon my ignorance, I am fairly new to the MB Community (even though I've been using MB for some time now)... I'm a

Re: [mb-style] Billboard's "top whatever"

2006-07-26 Thread Jason Bouwmeester
On 7/26/06, Jason Bouwmeester <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Finally I have kept my personal POV out of this mail. Maybe I'll send a > separate mail later. > >DonRedman How come? Pardon my ignorance, I am fairly new to the MB Community (even though I've been using MB for some time now)... I'm

Re: [mb-style] Billboard's "top whatever"

2006-07-26 Thread Jason Bouwmeester
Finally I have kept my personal POV out of this mail. Maybe I'll send a separate mail later. DonRedman How come? Pardon my ignorance, I am fairly new to the MB Community (even though I've been using MB for some time now)... I'm assuming you are one of or the head honcho around these parts? E

Re: [mb-style] Billboard's "top whatever"

2006-07-26 Thread Don Redman
On Wed, 26 Jul 2006 01:43:05 +0200, Bogdan Butnaru wrote: I start this thread because of (1) and to a related thread on the user's list. I started it here because I think this is a guideline issue and we need to discuss as such. I encountered similar situations before. (1) http://musicbrainz.o

Re: [mb-style] Billboard's "top whatever"

2006-07-26 Thread Haeretik
bogdanb wrote: > > Such a collection is, I insist, worthy of MusicBrainz, both as a > tagging database and as a discographic database. (In fact, I'd even > agree with adding at least some of Billboard's tops even if there was > not, in fact, a torrent containing the songs.) I think we should mak

Re: [mb-style] Is french silly? :p (French capitalization rules)

2006-07-26 Thread Bogdan Butnaru
I'm curious, where did the the idea of the exceptions came from? It seems rather strange to me, especially the fact that they apply even if the title contains other words. For example "The Highly Unbelievable Story of anything else" would look very weird, even in French. I could see the point of

[mb-style] Is french silly? :p (French capitalization rules)

2006-07-26 Thread Mangled
Hi! MLL recently opened-up the can of worms again :p, so I guess it's a good time to sort it out. It was a bit messy and I guess I wasn't specially kind myself, given I first thought MLL was simply trying to override styleguide to his own tastes, which he definitely wasn't. No hard feelings MLL?

Re: [mb-style] Setting DJs as owners of Remix CDs

2006-07-26 Thread azertus
Aaron Cooper schreef: Is this the correct way of doing things or should they be kept under Various Artists? I noticed that several other Releases were stored this way (see Tiesto links below) and it seems like a reasonable practice. This is a change in practice, yes, (There is a perfect word f

[mb-style] Setting DJs as owners of Remix CDs

2006-07-26 Thread Aaron Cooper
Hey everybody, I just wanted to raise this question to the community about whether or not we should be setting the Release Artist to a DJ who has remixed a collection of songs by other artists. The mod in question is: http://musicbrainz.org/show/edit/?editid=4965003 The other releases in this

Re: [mb-style] New to this list

2006-07-26 Thread azertus
MLL schreef: Thanks ! Can you point me to the thread at http://lists.musicbrainz.org/pipermail/musicbrainz-style/2006-July/thread.html ? MLL http://lists.musicbrainz.org/pipermail/musicbrainz-style/2006-July/003334.html ___ Musicbrainz-style maili

Re: [mb-style] New to this list

2006-07-26 Thread MLL
azertus wrote : Hi! Welcome! It's good to see you took the effort to subscribe. This way we should come to an acceptable compromise, I'm sure. Do note that the subject you're about to bring up, will not, in all probability, prompt a lot of replies... You should check the archives (let us

Re: [mb-style] New to this list

2006-07-26 Thread azertus
Hi! Welcome! It's good to see you took the effort to subscribe. This way we should come to an acceptable compromise, I'm sure. Do note that the subject you're about to bring up, will not, in all probability, prompt a lot of replies... You should check the archives (let us know if you can't f

Re: [mb-style] New to this list

2006-07-26 Thread Simon Reinhardt
mll wrote: Hello there, As a recent suscriber, this is just a quick mail to introduce myself. I suscribed upon dmppanda's request for a very precise reason he and azertus know, yet I'll be lurking for a while before to learn how this list lives. This is the first MB ML I suscribed too, if it's