RE: [mb-style] Billboard's "top whatever"

2006-07-26 Thread Stefan Kestenholz
> Thanks for raising this issue. This is a pretty general issue for > MusicBrainz. There is a type of bootlegs out there that we have > traditionally not let into the database: collections of files > that are > distributed (usually illegally) using torrents. That might be a categorization

Re: [mb-style] Billboard's "top whatever"

2006-07-26 Thread Jason Bouwmeester
I am the appointed Scretary of the StyleCouncil[*]. As such my job is to moderate the decision process. This is easier if I keep my personal POV out of the debate. Otherwise it is easy to inadvertedly direct the process into a direction of my liking. I believe that if I am conscious about my POV,

Re: [mb-style] Billboard's "top whatever"

2006-07-26 Thread Don Redman
On Wed, 26 Jul 2006 21:37:40 +0200, Jason Bouwmeester wrote: Finally I have kept my personal POV out of this mail. Maybe I'll send a separate mail later. DonRedman How come? Pardon my ignorance, I am fairly new to the MB Community (even though I've been using MB for some time now)... I'm a

Re: [mb-style] Billboard's "top whatever"

2006-07-26 Thread Jason Bouwmeester
On 7/26/06, Jason Bouwmeester <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Finally I have kept my personal POV out of this mail. Maybe I'll send a > separate mail later. > >DonRedman How come? Pardon my ignorance, I am fairly new to the MB Community (even though I've been using MB for some time now)... I'm

Re: [mb-style] Billboard's "top whatever"

2006-07-26 Thread Jason Bouwmeester
Finally I have kept my personal POV out of this mail. Maybe I'll send a separate mail later. DonRedman How come? Pardon my ignorance, I am fairly new to the MB Community (even though I've been using MB for some time now)... I'm assuming you are one of or the head honcho around these parts? E

Re: [mb-style] Billboard's "top whatever"

2006-07-26 Thread Don Redman
On Wed, 26 Jul 2006 01:43:05 +0200, Bogdan Butnaru wrote: I start this thread because of (1) and to a related thread on the user's list. I started it here because I think this is a guideline issue and we need to discuss as such. I encountered similar situations before. (1) http://musicbrainz.o

Re: [mb-style] Billboard's "top whatever"

2006-07-26 Thread Haeretik
bogdanb wrote: > > Such a collection is, I insist, worthy of MusicBrainz, both as a > tagging database and as a discographic database. (In fact, I'd even > agree with adding at least some of Billboard's tops even if there was > not, in fact, a torrent containing the songs.) I think we should mak

RE: [mb-style] Billboard's "top whatever"

2006-07-25 Thread Beth
As long as there are yes and no votes it will go the length of the voting cycle. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Aaron Cooper Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2006 6:20 PM To: MusicBrainz style discussion Subject: Re: [mb-style] Billboard's

Re: [mb-style] Billboard's "top whatever"

2006-07-25 Thread Nine99
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billboard_charts#Methodology_of_its_charts As you can see, the Billboard system changes, it calculates radio airplay and music bought at SoundScan-enabled stores. So this is a bit arbitrary (and much in favor of "commercial" releases). As you can see there are many d

Re: [mb-style] Billboard's "top whatever"

2006-07-25 Thread Aaron Cooper
On 7/25/06, Chris Bransden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 26/07/06, Bogdan Butnaru <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I start this thread because of (1) and to a related thread on the > user's list. I started it here because I think this is a guideline > issue and we need to discuss as such. I encounter

Re: [mb-style] Billboard's "top whatever"

2006-07-25 Thread snarly j. dwarf
On Wed, Jul 26, 2006 at 01:43:05AM +0200, Bogdan Butnaru wrote: > How can we then look at a collection of all the songs in one of > Billboard's (*) tops and dismiss it as a "homebrew" just because it > was not released on a physical bootleg CD from Russia(**), but > through a torrent? I have seen

Re: [mb-style] Billboard's "top whatever"

2006-07-25 Thread Chris Bransden
On 26/07/06, Bogdan Butnaru <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I start this thread because of (1) and to a related thread on the user's list. I started it here because I think this is a guideline issue and we need to discuss as such. I encountered similar situations before. (1) http://musicbrainz.org/s

RE: [mb-style] Billboard's "top whatever"

2006-07-25 Thread Steve Wyles
On Wed, 26 Jul 2006, Steve Wyles wrote: The 99 track limit was removed about 5 months ago, but seems to have been reintroduced in this release. removed in http://bugs.musicbrainz.org/changeset/6672 added again in http://bugs.musicbrainz.org/changeset/7584 it needs a bug report raising. ht

RE: [mb-style] Billboard's "top whatever"

2006-07-25 Thread Steve Wyles
I also don't have a clue of the coding needs, but will there be someone that will take up that part of the coding before we even start on the discussion of whether not to accept them, we need someone willing to create the code to make them admissible in my opinion. The 99 track limit was removed

RE: [mb-style] Billboard's "top whatever"

2006-07-25 Thread Beth
om: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bogdan Butnaru Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2006 5:43 PM To: MusicBrainz Style Policy Mailinglist Subject: [mb-style] Billboard's "top whatever" I start this thread because of (1) and to a related thread on the user's list. I s

Re: [mb-style] Billboard's "top whatever"

2006-07-25 Thread Stefan Kestenholz
But that doesn't mean all home-burnt CDs and music .torrents are uninteresting for MB. We do keep in the database demo tapes that were thumbs up! thanks for taking this to the mailing list, i agree with you that this should be discussed in the open. regards, keschte ___

[mb-style] Billboard's "top whatever"

2006-07-25 Thread Bogdan Butnaru
I start this thread because of (1) and to a related thread on the user's list. I started it here because I think this is a guideline issue and we need to discuss as such. I encountered similar situations before. (1) http://musicbrainz.org/show/edit/?editid=5258089 The current guidelines say rat