Re: Call for StyleSecretary Help: Let's try discussing/deciding thisin IRC (was [mb-style] add instrument request: vacuum cleaner)

2006-03-27 Thread Brian Gurtler
looks whose whining now.. Robert Kaye wrote: > > On Mar 27, 2006, at 4:39 PM, Jan van Thiel wrote: >> I think that if e.g. inhouseuk (sorry to (ab)use your name, just >> giving an example), a moderator with a spotless record, had requested >> these, they would've been added almost instantaneously

Re: Call for StyleSecretary Help: Let's try discussing/deciding thisin IRC (was [mb-style] add instrument request: vacuum cleaner)

2006-03-27 Thread Robert Kaye
On Mar 27, 2006, at 4:39 PM, Jan van Thiel wrote: I think that if e.g. inhouseuk (sorry to (ab)use your name, just giving an example), a moderator with a spotless record, had requested these, they would've been added almost instantaneously. I disagree. If a moderator with a "perfect record" a

Re: Call for StyleSecretary Help: Let's try discussing/deciding thisin IRC (was [mb-style] add instrument request: vacuum cleaner)

2006-03-27 Thread Jan van Thiel
On 3/27/06, Robert Kaye <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > But, what is done is done, and at least > we don't have to listen to the incessant whining about adding the > damned vacuum cleaner. Let's move on. I don't agree. Brian has been asking about this for a *long* time. Maybe not in the best way, but

Re: Call for StyleSecretary Help: Let's try discussing/deciding thisin IRC (was [mb-style] add instrument request: vacuum cleaner)

2006-03-27 Thread Brian Gurtler
incessant whining? and you call Me confrontational.. Robert Kaye wrote: > > On Mar 27, 2006, at 4:53 AM, Don Redman wrote: >> Well, then I'd say we should add this now and let Brian add the >> appropriate Relationships. >> >> I mean if we finally have a rule, we should use it :-) > > Yes, but...

Re: Call for StyleSecretary Help: Let's try discussing/deciding thisin IRC (was [mb-style] add instrument request: vacuum cleaner)

2006-03-27 Thread Robert Kaye
On Mar 27, 2006, at 5:24 AM, Don Redman wrote: And I am strongly opposed to removing your RelType editor privileges. Agreed. So far all Luks' actions were following valid bugs or instructions from the style secretary. -- --ruaok Somewhere in Texas a village is *still* missing its

Re: Call for StyleSecretary Help: Let's try discussing/deciding thisin IRC (was [mb-style] add instrument request: vacuum cleaner)

2006-03-27 Thread Robert Kaye
On Mar 27, 2006, at 4:53 AM, Don Redman wrote: Well, then I'd say we should add this now and let Brian add the appropriate Relationships. I mean if we finally have a rule, we should use it :-) Yes, but Luks went ahead and added the vacuum cleaner. Fine. However, in the future I want to

Re: Call for StyleSecretary Help: Let's try discussing/deciding thisin IRC (was [mb-style] add instrument request: vacuum cleaner)

2006-03-27 Thread Don Redman
On Mon, 27 Mar 2006 00:31:39 +0200, Lukáš Lalinský wrote: Ok, I've added this and http://test.musicbrainz.org/trac/ticket/1228 to the instrument tree. Some people will probably disagree, so please tell me, I'll ask someone to remove my link editor privs and won't do it anymore. What? Thi

Re: Call for StyleSecretary Help: Let's try discussing/deciding thisin IRC (was [mb-style] add instrument request: vacuum cleaner)

2006-03-27 Thread Don Redman
On Sun, 26 Mar 2006 22:34:18 +0200, Brian Gurtler wrote: Stefan Kestenholz wrote: brian: Is it true that this artist performed the vacuum cleaner on many occasions, and this is documented in bootlegs/released recordings? if that is the case, then we should add it. yes it's true. i am not

Re: Call for StyleSecretary Help: Let's try discussing/deciding thisin IRC (was [mb-style] add instrument request: vacuum cleaner)

2006-03-26 Thread Lukáš Lalinský
Ok, I've added this and http://test.musicbrainz.org/trac/ticket/1228 to the instrument tree. Some people will probably disagree, so please tell me, I'll ask someone to remove my link editor privs and won't do it anymore. Lukas Brian Gurtler wrote: yes it's true. i am not making this stuff u

Re: Call for StyleSecretary Help: Let's try discussing/deciding thisin IRC (was [mb-style] add instrument request: vacuum cleaner)

2006-03-26 Thread Brian Gurtler
yes it's true. i am not making this stuff up. :) i have been in the process of trying to compile a full list of times that Jon Fishman alone has used the vacuum as an instrument out of all Phish live bootleg recordings. Phish also offer hundreds of official recordings (actual CDs as well as downloa

Re: Call for StyleSecretary Help: Let's try discussing/deciding thisin IRC (was [mb-style] add instrument request: vacuum cleaner)

2006-03-26 Thread Don Redman
On Sun, 26 Mar 2006 13:47:10 +0200, Steve Wyles wrote: On Sun, 26 Mar 2006, Don Redman wrote: The current "Recording Engineer" debate is a good example: Simon thought he was requesting a veto (but did not say so explicitly), but Steve put forward a dissenting oppinion (he did not label it a

Re: Call for StyleSecretary Help: Let's try discussing/deciding thisin IRC (was [mb-style] add instrument request: vacuum cleaner)

2006-03-26 Thread Simon Reinhardt
Steve Wyles wrote: On Sun, 26 Mar 2006, Don Redman wrote: The current "Recording Engineer" debate is a good example: Simon thought he was requesting a veto (but did not say so explicitly), but Steve put forward a dissenting oppinion (he did not label it as a veto) and spared another discussio

Re: Call for StyleSecretary Help: Let's try discussing/deciding thisin IRC (was [mb-style] add instrument request: vacuum cleaner)

2006-03-26 Thread Steve Wyles
On Sun, 26 Mar 2006, Don Redman wrote: The current "Recording Engineer" debate is a good example: Simon thought he was requesting a veto (but did not say so explicitly), but Steve put forward a dissenting oppinion (he did not label it as a veto) and spared another discussion. I've just check

Re: Call for StyleSecretary Help: Let's try discussing/deciding thisin IRC (was [mb-style] add instrument request: vacuum cleaner)

2006-03-26 Thread Don Redman
On Sun, 26 Mar 2006 12:04:25 +0200, Stefan Kestenholz wrote: I have to admit that it is sometimes hard to understand why changes like that take such a lot of time, or the deal that is made out of them. please do not get personal over this, it's not worth it - and will more likely achieve less

RE: Call for StyleSecretary Help: Let's try discussing/deciding thisin IRC (was [mb-style] add instrument request: vacuum cleaner)

2006-03-24 Thread Cristov Russell
> As far as i know the position of "Instrument Secretary" is > not held by anyone (including DonRedman) and is still open > and available. > > i didn't call anyone specifically spineless. So I don't see > that as confrontational. I'm saying in jest, give the > position to someone who will flip

Re: Call for StyleSecretary Help: Let's try discussing/deciding thisin IRC (was [mb-style] add instrument request: vacuum cleaner)

2006-03-24 Thread Brian Gurtler
As far as i know the position of "Instrument Secretary" is not held by anyone (including DonRedman) and is still open and available. i didn't call anyone specifically spineless. So I don't see that as confrontational. I'm saying in jest, give the position to someone who will flip-flop and not beca

RE: Call for StyleSecretary Help: Let's try discussing/deciding thisin IRC (was [mb-style] add instrument request: vacuum cleaner)

2006-03-24 Thread Cristov Russell
> I've been waiting over 3 months for an instrument to be added > to MB and jumped through way too many bullshit hoops to get > to where we are now. > i'm just looking for it to be added without any further hoops > like i was told by Redman that it would be once Mos thingy > went live. It's bee

Re: Call for StyleSecretary Help: Let's try discussing/deciding thisin IRC (was [mb-style] add instrument request: vacuum cleaner)

2006-03-24 Thread Brian Gurtler
I've been waiting over 3 months for an instrument to be added to MB and jumped through way too many bullshit hoops to get to where we are now. i'm just looking for it to be added without any further hoops like i was told by Redman that it would be once Mos thingy went live. It's been live for over

RE: Call for StyleSecretary Help: Let's try discussing/deciding thisin IRC (was [mb-style] add instrument request: vacuum cleaner)

2006-03-24 Thread Cristov Russell
> LOL > yes, give the position to someone that has no spine and will > back down at any argument presented to them. > you know that i'm only confrontational when confronted.. and > i believe most people that don't have thier head in the > coulds on IRC realize that as well. > > -Brian > > btw-