Re: Here's an Idea for Re-Syncing Master and Slave During Production Hours without Interrupting Users (Much)

2009-12-10 Thread Baron Schwartz
Hi Eric, >> At least with Maatkit, you get transparency.  We make a concerted >> effort to update the RISKS section of each tool with each release, so > there >> is full disclosure. > > Fair enough, but I still found the warnings a little too scary. A more > complete explanation of the exact natur

RE: Here's an Idea for Re-Syncing Master and Slave During Production Hours without Interrupting Users (Much)

2009-12-09 Thread Robinson, Eric
Hi Baron, > I'm the primary author of Maatkit. Awkward... :-) > What can I say -- you could go buy a commercial off-the-shelf tool > and believe the song and dance they feed you about the tool > being perfect. There's not a single commercial software solution in our toolbox. We're big fan

Re: Here's an Idea for Re-Syncing Master and Slave During Production Hours without Interrupting Users (Much)

2009-12-08 Thread Baron Schwartz
Eric, >> There are ways to resync data that don't involve all >> this as well:  Maatkit has some tools > > I've looked with great interest at Maatkit, but their tools are replete > with warnings about dangers, bugs, and crashes. They certainly do not > inspire confidence. I'm the primary author o

RE: Here's an Idea for Re-Syncing Master and Slave During Production Hours without Interrupting Users (Much)

2009-12-04 Thread Robinson, Eric
>> I would never have any confidence that the replication >> is solid enough to use the slave server for backup purposes. > I agree completely there. That's the other reason I like filesystem > snapshots is that it allows you to take a backup from > the master relatively painlessly. I've thou

RE: Here's an Idea for Re-Syncing Master and Slave During Production Hours without Interrupting Users (Much)

2009-12-04 Thread Gavin Towey
---Original Message- From: Robinson, Eric [mailto:eric.robin...@psmnv.com] Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 1:24 PM To: Gavin Towey; Tom Worster; mysql@lists.mysql.com Subject: RE: Here's an Idea for Re-Syncing Master and Slave During Production Hours without Interrupting Users (Much) > I

RE: Here's an Idea for Re-Syncing Master and Slave During Production Hours without Interrupting Users (Much)

2009-12-04 Thread Robinson, Eric
> I would say that it's very important to know why data > is getting out of sync between your master and slave. Ultimately, I agree. But since it's a canned application, getting to that point might be hard, and once it is resolved, new issues might arise. I would never have any confidence that t

Re: Here's an Idea for Re-Syncing Master and Slave During Production Hours without Interrupting Users (Much)

2009-12-04 Thread Tom Worster
On 12/4/09 3:14 PM, "Gavin Towey" wrote: > I would say that it's very important to know why data is getting out of sync > between your master and slave. Fixing those root causes would eliminate the > need for this. i very much agree. the only instances of slaves getting out of whack that i've e

RE: Here's an Idea for Re-Syncing Master and Slave During Production Hours without Interrupting Users (Much)

2009-12-04 Thread Gavin Towey
9:00 AM To: Tom Worster; mysql@lists.mysql.com Subject: RE: Here's an Idea for Re-Syncing Master and Slave During Production Hours without Interrupting Users (Much) > (1) innodb? It's an off-the-shelf application that uses MyISAM tables. It is possible to convert to innodb, but I h

Re: Here's an Idea for Re-Syncing Master and Slave During Production Hours without Interrupting Users (Much)

2009-12-04 Thread Tom Worster
On 12/4/09 11:59 AM, "Robinson, Eric" wrote: >> (2) why delete slave logs when you can >> restart the slave with --skip-slave and >> then use CHANGE MASTER TO? > > Well... I guess mainly because I didn't know about that option! I > thought I needed to "fake out" mysql on this, but it sounds like

RE: Here's an Idea for Re-Syncing Master and Slave During Production Hours without Interrupting Users (Much)

2009-12-04 Thread Robinson, Eric
> (1) innodb? It's an off-the-shelf application that uses MyISAM tables. It is possible to convert to innodb, but I have not been sold on innodb in terms of its performance characteristics for this particular application. Maybe I've been reading the wrong stuff. Do you have general thoughts on t

Re: Here's an Idea for Re-Syncing Master and Slave During Production Hours without Interrupting Users (Much)

2009-12-04 Thread Tom Worster
i have two questions. (1) innodb? (2) why delete slave logs when you can restart the slave with --skip-slave and then use CHANGE MASTER TO? tom On 12/4/09 6:34 AM, "Robinson, Eric" wrote: > > Let's face it, sometimes the master and slave get out of sync, even when > 'show slave status' and 's

Here's an Idea for Re-Syncing Master and Slave During Production Hours without Interrupting Users (Much)

2009-12-04 Thread Robinson, Eric
Let's face it, sometimes the master and slave get out of sync, even when 'show slave status' and 'show master status' indicate that all is well. And sometimes it is not feasible to wait until after production hours to resync them. We've been working on a method to do an emergency hot-resync durin

Re: An Idea

2003-01-02 Thread Michael T. Babcock
R. Hannes Niedner wrote: Isn't that funny: if I have a mysql related question and search google I end up in the mysql online documentation in 90% of cases. I find if I just use the word 'mysql' in my query on Google, I get fairly appropriate results too. Not using the word mysql often give

Re: FAQ hosting site (was "Re: An Idea")

2003-01-02 Thread Bruce Lewis
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "Stefan Hinz, iConnect (Berlin)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "David T-G" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "mysql users" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, January 01, 2003 6:36 PM Subject: Re: FAQ hosting site (was "Re: An Idea") &

Re: FAQ hosting site (was "Re: An Idea")

2003-01-02 Thread Bruce Lewis
esday, January 01, 2003 6:25 PM Subject: RE: FAQ hosting site (was "Re: An Idea") > Hi > > Is '111' the IP it is trying to connect on? > > If so it is an invalid IP. > > If the IP is valid how are you trying to connect? > > Peter > &

Re: RE: FAQ hosting site (was "Re: An Idea") (fwd)

2003-01-02 Thread Boyd Lynn Gerber
sql,query,queries,smallint On Thu, 2 Jan 2003, Peter Lovatt wrote: > I was looking for a reasonably heavyweight php application, there are some > lightweight ones and some half finished ones and some perl ones, but none > that were what I was looking for. > > Any suggestions would be appreciated,

RE: FAQ hosting site (was "Re: An Idea")

2003-01-01 Thread Dan Goodes
ham > UK > www.sunmaia.net > tel. 0121-242-1473 > International +44-121-242-1473 > --- > > -Original Message- > From: mnbv [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: 02 January 2003 00:23 > To: Peter Lovatt; Stefan Hinz, iConnect (Berlin);

RE: FAQ hosting site (was "Re: An Idea")

2003-01-01 Thread Peter Lovatt
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 02 January 2003 00:37 To: Peter Lovatt Cc: Stefan Hinz, iConnect (Berlin); David T-G; mysql users Subject: Re: FAQ hosting site (was "Re: An Idea") On Wed, Jan 01, 2003 at 11:08:58PM -, Peter Lovatt wrote: > > I am not sure if there is exist

Re: FAQ hosting site (was "Re: An Idea")

2003-01-01 Thread Jeremy Zawodny
On Wed, Jan 01, 2003 at 11:08:58PM -, Peter Lovatt wrote: > > I am not sure if there is existing faq software (I've checked > sourceforge and freshmeat without much luck) Really? That's a wheel I've seen re-invented many times. I know there's stuff out there. -- Jeremy D. Zawodny | Pe

RE: FAQ hosting site (was "Re: An Idea")

2003-01-01 Thread Peter Lovatt
t: RE: FAQ hosting site (was "Re: An Idea") I really need your help, I installed MySQL and I can connect to it through localhost but when trying to access it from outside I get: ERROR 2003: Can't connect to MySQL server on 'IP' (111) Any suggestions? Someone sugges

RE: FAQ hosting site (was "Re: An Idea")

2003-01-01 Thread mnbv
--- > Sunmaia > Birmingham > UK > www.sunmaia.net > tel. 0121-242-1473 > International +44-121-242-1473 > --- > > -Original Message- > From: Stefan Hinz, iConnect (Berlin

RE: FAQ hosting site (was "Re: An Idea")

2003-01-01 Thread Peter Lovatt
, iConnect (Berlin) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 01 January 2003 21:26 To: David T-G; mysql users Subject: Re: FAQ hosting site (was "Re: An Idea") David, > Sure; it's the least I can do. Look for mysql.justpickone.org to be in > the DNS tables by tomorrow. By then the [EMAIL

RE: FAQ hosting site (was "Re: An Idea")

2003-01-01 Thread B. van Ouwerkerk
-Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: Stefan Hinz, iConnect (Berlin) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Verzonden: woensdag 1 januari 2003 22:26 Aan: David T-G; mysql users Onderwerp: Re: FAQ hosting site (was "Re: An Idea") David, > Sure; it's the least I can do. Look for mysql.justpickone

Re: FAQ hosting site (was "Re: An Idea")

2003-01-01 Thread Stefan Hinz, iConnect \(Berlin\)
. 6, 12169 Berlin (Germany) Tel: +49 30 7970948-0 Fax: +49 30 7970948-3 - Original Message - From: "David T-G" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "mysql users" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "Stefan Hinz, iConnect (Berlin)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday,

RE: An Idea

2003-01-01 Thread JamesD
-Original Message- From: Stefan Hinz, iConnect (Berlin) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 01, 2003 5:31 AM To: JamesD; David T-G; mysql users Subject: Re: An Idea James, > something that can be based upon pages of htm and > emails that exists, and that can sit under

Re: FAQ hosting site (was "Re: An Idea")

2003-01-01 Thread David T-G
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Stefan, et al -- ...and then Stefan Hinz, iConnect (Berlin) said... % % David, % % > see it dropped if they don't jump on it at the start. % % I agree. Will you set it up at http://justpickone.org/? (BTW, I like Sure; it's the least I can do. Loo

Re: An Idea

2003-01-01 Thread Stefan Hinz, iConnect \(Berlin\)
: +49 30 7970948-3 - Original Message - From: "JamesD" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "David T-G" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "mysql users" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "Stefan Hinz, iConnect (Berlin)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, Jan

Re: An Idea

2003-01-01 Thread Stefan Hinz, iConnect \(Berlin\)
Fax: +49 30 7970948-3 - Original Message - From: "David T-G" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "mysql users" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "Stefan Hinz, iConnect (Berlin)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, January 01, 2003 1:35 AM Subject: Re: An Idea >

Re: An Idea

2002-12-31 Thread R. Hannes Niedner
On 12/31/02 8:11 PM, "JamesD" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > lists work, and faq's work, some like to call...etc. > personally, I'd prefer a search engine style... > like google, but only for mySQL topics, and with > a visible list of most popular search terms. > > something that can be based upon

RE: An Idea

2002-12-31 Thread JamesD
ten Rutsch Jim -Original Message- From: David T-G [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2002 4:36 PM To: mysql users Cc: Stefan Hinz, iConnect (Berlin) Subject: Re: An Idea -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Stefan -- ...and then Stefan Hinz, iConnect (Berlin) sa

Re: An Idea

2002-12-31 Thread David T-G
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Stefan -- ...and then Stefan Hinz, iConnect (Berlin) said... % % David, % % regarding the MySQL FAQ: % % > Why should it have to be there? Let anyone with a site set it up and ... % % MySQL.com would be the natural place for the FAQ. Any other pl

Re: An Idea

2002-12-31 Thread Stefan Hinz, iConnect \(Berlin\)
David, regarding the MySQL FAQ: > Why should it have to be there? Let anyone with a site set it up and get > it going and see if readers will even care about it, and *then* perhaps > have it move to mysql.com later... MySQL.com would be the natural place for the FAQ. Any other place wouldn't be

RE: An Idea

2002-12-31 Thread Peter Lovatt
- From: David T-G [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 31 December 2002 11:13 To: mysql users Cc: Stefan Hinz, iConnect (Berlin) Subject: Re: An Idea -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Stefan, et al -- ...and then Stefan Hinz, iConnect (Berlin) said... % % > So (taking a deep bre

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2002-12-31 Thread David T-G
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Stefan, et al -- ...and then Stefan Hinz, iConnect (Berlin) said... % % > So (taking a deep breath !) I would be prepared to lay the foundations ... % % Thanks, I appreciate that. I've been waiting a moment before answering, % waiting for others to

Re: An Idea

2002-12-30 Thread Stefan Hinz, iConnect \(Berlin\)
nz, iConnect (Berlin)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Cal Evans" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Paul DuBois" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Adam Wi´ckowski" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, December 30, 2002 1:18 AM Subject: RE: An Idea >

RE: An Idea (really: MySQL and Perl for the Web)

2002-12-29 Thread Paul DuBois
hex.com -Original Message- From: Peter Lovatt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, December 29, 2002 4:18 PM To: Stefan Hinz, iConnect (Berlin); Cal Evans; Paul DuBois; Adam Wi´ckowski; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: An Idea Hi My first thought was that the docs on mysql.com should do the

RE: An Idea (really: MySQL and Perl for the Web)

2002-12-29 Thread JamesD
we are all in sales, 24/7. :-) Jim -Original Message- From: Paul DuBois [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, December 29, 2002 9:24 PM To: JamesD; Peter Lovatt; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: An Idea (really: MySQL and Perl for the Web) At 17:35 -0800 12/29/02, JamesD wrote: >wh

RE: An Idea

2002-12-29 Thread Cal Evans
e Virtual CIO * http://www.calevans.com * -Original Message- From: JamesD [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, December 29, 2002 7:35 PM To: Peter Lovatt; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: An Idea while Paul probably wouldnt say it, I would: his book: "MySql and Perl for the Web&q

RE: An Idea

2002-12-29 Thread Peter Lovatt
unmaia.net tel. 0121-242-1473 International +44-121-242-1473 --- -Original Message- From: JamesD [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 30 December 2002 01:35 To: Peter Lovatt; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: An Idea while Paul probably wouldnt say i

RE: An Idea

2002-12-29 Thread JamesD
ecember 29, 2002 4:18 PM To: Stefan Hinz, iConnect (Berlin); Cal Evans; Paul DuBois; Adam Wi´ckowski; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: An Idea Hi My first thought was that the docs on mysql.com should do the job, but, although they answer most technical questions, often more down to earth stuff l

RE: An Idea

2002-12-29 Thread Peter Lovatt
ROTECTED]> To: "Paul DuBois" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Adam Wi´ckowski" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, December 29, 2002 6:00 PM Subject: RE: An Idea > Because that's the way that (FoxPro, Access, Paradox, insert name of

Re: An Idea

2002-12-29 Thread Stefan Hinz, iConnect \(Berlin\)
uBois" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Adam Wi´ckowski" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, December 29, 2002 6:00 PM Subject: RE: An Idea > Because that's the way that (FoxPro, Access, Paradox, insert name of > favorite desktop RDBMS here)

Re: An Idea

2002-12-29 Thread harm
On Sun, Dec 29, 2002 at 11:43:35AM -0500, Michael She wrote: > > > BTW, does MySQL have a RowNumber function? You can use variables: select @a := 0; select id, more, fields, @a:= @a + 1 as rownumber from whatever; But you cannot use that number in the where part. Good luck. (sql, etc) --

RE: An Idea

2002-12-29 Thread Cal Evans
sage- From: Paul DuBois [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, December 29, 2002 10:02 AM To: Adam Wi´ckowski; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: An Idea Why? - Before posting, please check: http://www.mysql.com/manual.ph

Re: An Idea

2002-12-29 Thread Michael She
At 11:26 AM 12/29/2002 +0100, =?iso-8859-2?Q?Adam_Wi=EAckowski?= wrote: Hello, I had a problem few days ago. I'm doing my questbook, and I were thinking what would hapen if I delete some row. Now I know, nothing. I had one column ID (auto_increment) in my table. I wanted it to be one by one even a

Re: An Idea

2002-12-29 Thread Paul DuBois
At 11:26 +0100 12/29/02, Adam Wi´ckowski wrote: Hello, I had a problem few days ago. I'm doing my questbook, and I were thinking what would hapen if I delete some row. Now I know, nothing. I had one column ID (auto_increment) in my table. I wanted it to be one by one Why? even after deleting,

re: An Idea

2002-12-29 Thread Egor Egorov
On Sunday 29 December 2002 12:26, Adam Wiêckowski wrote: > I had a problem few days ago. I'm doing my questbook, and I were thinking > what would hapen if I delete some row. Now I know, nothing. I had one > column ID (auto_increment) in my table. I wanted it to be one by one even > after deleting,

Re: An Idea

2002-12-29 Thread Benjamin Pflugmann
Hello. On Sun 2002-12-29 at 11:26:01 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hello, > I had a problem few days ago. I'm doing my questbook, and I were thinking > what would hapen if I delete some row. Now I know, nothing. I had one column > ID (auto_increment) in my table. I wanted it to be one by one e

An Idea

2002-12-29 Thread Adam Więckowski
Hello, I had a problem few days ago. I'm doing my questbook, and I were thinking what would hapen if I delete some row. Now I know, nothing. I had one column ID (auto_increment) in my table. I wanted it to be one by one even after deleting, so I changed it by myself. But then (after deleting the la