on 8/17/2003 9:09 PM [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Org A makes a killing. Given that the players were producers, buyers
> and sellers of the same product this creates no incentaive to build out
> additional capasity. Quite different from say, Hog futures, were the
> supply side and demand side are
On Sunday 17 August 2003 06:28 pm, Having folded space, the Third Stage
Guild Navigator said:
> So, the US Government wants to classify Sean Gorman's student project.
> The question is did Mr. Gorman's maps divulge the vulnerability in the
> East Coast power grid that resulted in the blackouts th
City to Investigate 911 Outages During Blackout
By LUKAS I. ALPERT
Associated Press Writer
August 17, 2003, 3:37 PM EDT
Problems with the system's telephone service provider caused disruptions
of up to 14 minutes. "We've got to make sure that doesn't happen again,"
Mayor Michael Bloomberg said Su
-So, the US Government wants to classify Sean Gorman's student project.
-The question is did Mr. Gorman's maps divulge the vulnerability in the
-East Coast power grid that resulted in the blackouts this week?
-Would it be better to know about these vulnerabilities, and do something
-about them;
So, the US Government wants to classify Sean Gorman's student project.
The question is did Mr. Gorman's maps divulge the vulnerability in the
East Coast power grid that resulted in the blackouts this week?
Would it be better to know about these vulnerabilities, and do something
about them; or is
On Thu, Aug 14, 2003 at 01:40:01PM -0400, Leo Bicknell wrote:
>
> I wanted to get some other opinions on some new features that have
> appeared in recent code from the popular vendors. It appears there
> is a new draft, a copy of which can be found at
> http://www.watersprings.org/links/mlr/id/d
On Sunday 17 August 2003 03:11 pm, Having folded space, the Third Stage
Guild Navigator said:
> On zondag, aug 17, 2003, at 20:57 Europe/Amsterdam,
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Sure, a regular house has enough surface area to generate this
> electricity, but not appartment buildings or busines
It's just come back now. Must have been a temporary holding page while
they did some maintenance.
On Sun, 17 Aug 2003, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> I was just updating a couple of Windows machines and had been using
> Windows Update without any problems until about 5 mins ago (2
Hi all,
I was just updating a couple of Windows machines and had been using
Windows Update without any problems until about 5 mins ago (22:10 GMT)
when I've started getting this:
"Thank you for your interest in Windows Update
Windows Update is the online extension of Windows that helps you ge
On zondag, aug 17, 2003, at 20:57 Europe/Amsterdam,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The calculations I have seen of hydrogen produced vs watts in indicate
solar could supply enough hydrogen to more than satisfy
the requirements of a residential user.
Sure, a regular house has enough surface area to gene
> > >
> > > And solar nor wind are good for base energy production so we´re stuck
> > > with other methods unless you want to move IP packets only when it´s
> > > windy.
> >
> > Or you store excess power generated on windy/sunny days for later
> > distribution on calm/rainy days:
> > http://www.tv
On Sunday 17 August 2003 11:55 am, Having folded space, the Third Stage
Guild Navigator said:
> > Use hydrogen. One solar panel (which will last forever unless you drop
> > something on it) can split H2O into H and O. Store the H for windless
> > days or at night. Feed this to a turbine for elect
> Use hydrogen. One solar panel (which will last forever unless you drop
> something on it) can split H2O into H and O. Store the H for windless days
> or at night. Feed this to a turbine for electricity and recover heat for hot
> water, store it in a heat sink, ect. Or feed the H into a fuel
> > 2. In times of weather emergencies, snow and excessive cold, the gas
> > companies routinely shut down gas flow to non-residential areas
>
> This is a contract issue; Commercial customers often get better rates
> for being 'cutable'... but you need to assure the generator is not one.
This is
Speaking on Deep Background, the Press Secretary whispered:
>
>
> There are a couple of problems with Natural Gas generators:
>
> 1. It takes an aweful lot of pressure to get a NG engine up past enough HP
True; you need to engineer well. And not all sites will have a sufficent
main.
> 2.
On Saturday 16 August 2003 04:54 pm, Having folded space, the Third Stage
Guild Navigator said:
> Thus spake "Petri Helenius" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> > > > subsidize) local power generation via renewable energy sources
(e.g.
> > > > solar, wind, hydro) it would go a long way towards solving this
There are a couple of problems with Natural Gas generators:
1. It takes an aweful lot of pressure to get a NG engine up past enough HP
to generate more than say 150KW. At least thats what we have seen with
current models. It seems to be an issue of pressure, and whether being fed
from a pipelin
Some weeks back there was a dicussion on the merits of naural gas versus
diesel generators.
It is my observation that Natural Gas continued to be available throught
this recent blackout.
In speaking to a friend who works for the gas company he informed me that
the compressor stations on the main
> I wasn't aware that there are high voltage DC long-haul lines that then
> are converted to AC for local distribution.
Another use for HVDC is to isolate transmission networks.
Hydro Quebec uses Back-to-Back High Voltage DC conversion equipment at its
interconnection points with other transmissi
--Huh ? Where in the physics of ohms law is Hz a factor ? Having lived off
--the grid, where systems are often at max 48v, yes the wires have to be
--several 0's of gage to carry the lagre amperages. Much the same in A/B DC legs in
--a colo. Up the volts and the amps go down to produce the same
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I am a little rusty on this one, but I seem to remember that AC travels
only on the outside skin of the wire but DC uses all the wire.
"Skin effect" is only significant at high frequencies (lots of megahertz
and up). At 60hz it can be ignored.
As far as I remember we have seen labels from other providers, until
they turned on the "traceroute hide". And there was no LDP coupling
between them and us so ... . That was with Cisco in both networks.
The question is if these information cause any problem for you -
despite curious customer
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