Re: .ORG Registrar ID List (was: Stupid .org registry code change)

2003-12-22 Thread ken emery
On Mon, 22 Dec 2003, Mike Lewinski wrote: > Bruce Beckwith wrote: > > >You should deal with a registrar for this information, since that is one > >of the services they can provide for you. > > > > > Right, but in a case where my client inherited a domain from their > predecessor, and has no idea

Re: .ORG Registrar ID List (was: Stupid .org registry code change)

2003-12-22 Thread Mike Lewinski
Bruce Beckwith wrote: You should deal with a registrar for this information, since that is one of the services they can provide for you. Right, but in a case where my client inherited a domain from their predecessor, and has no idea who their registrar is, I seem to be in a catch-22 This

Re: northeast fiber cut

2003-12-22 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Tue, 23 Dec 2003 00:04:18 EST, Alex Rubenstein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > b) is it me, or does it seem the number of fiber cuts per time period is > decreasing, or does sean donelan no longer have an email client? Wait till April, the traditional mating season of backhoes and other construct

northeast fiber cut

2003-12-22 Thread Alex Rubenstein
Circuits we had that were affected by the fiber cut in NJ/PA have been coming up over the last hour. two notes: a) anyone know of where this happened, specifically, and also what actually happened? I heard ?langhorne?, pa, and two 288 bundles were affected, MFN had to dig to find it -- if thats

Re: Extreme spam testing

2003-12-22 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Mon, 22 Dec 2003 15:01:35 EST, Chris Brenton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > Except its broken because the message in question was not spam. It was a > technical post to the NANOG mailing list that triggered the 100+ port Chris - please see if you can find out if it *was* your message. A few we

Re: Extreme spam testing

2003-12-22 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
Andy Dills writes on 12/22/2003 7:33 PM: Oh, sure have. Spews has listed an entire /19 of ours before, merely because of a multi-stage relay (customer had an open relay configured to dump everything to our mailserver). As far as I have seen, that is not the typical reason for a spews nom. Spews s

Re: Bay area Earthquake

2003-12-22 Thread Jay Hennigan
On Mon, 22 Dec 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > foxnews reporting 6.5 on the richter scale > > cant get more info than that http://quake.wr.usgs.gov/recenteqs/Maps/121-36.html It was quite noticable in Santa Barbara. Building swayed for a good 30 seconds, localized power failures for a few ho

Bay area Earthquake

2003-12-22 Thread Brennan_Murphy
foxnews reporting 6.5 on the richter scale cant get more info than that

Re: Request for submissions: messy cabling and other broken things

2003-12-22 Thread Stephen J. Wilcox
Sorry this is a bit blurred being from my phone but this is recent from telehouse london, the area under the floor is about 2ft6 deep http://www.thedogsbollocks.co.uk/pictures/opalpops/P7090001.JPG On Mon, 22 Dec 2003, Russel Callen wrote: > > i've started taking pictures of the places i've

Re: Minimum Internet MTU

2003-12-22 Thread Chris Brenton
On Mon, 2003-12-22 at 19:10, Stephen J. Wilcox wrote: > > Whats IP over DNS, 512 bytes.. wouldnt want to kill my hotel access now huh? LOL! And least we forget RFC 1149. I think this limits carrier pigeon MTU to 256 milligrams. ;-) C

Re: Extreme spam testing

2003-12-22 Thread Chris Brenton
On Mon, 2003-12-22 at 16:55, Andy Dills wrote: > > > This is going to sound really snippy, but who died and made then > > god/goddess of the Internet? Where is the document trail empowering them > > to be spam cops of the Internet with absolute authority to probe who > > ever they see fit? > > Th

Re: Trace and Ping with Record Option on Cisco Routers

2003-12-22 Thread Chris Brenton
On Mon, 2003-12-22 at 18:18, Crist Clark wrote: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > Hey, Group. > > > > In my production network, I'm trying to do some extended traces and pings with the > > record option turned on to see what route my packets take going and returning. > > It's not working.

Re: Extreme spam testing

2003-12-22 Thread Andy Dills
On Mon, 22 Dec 2003, Vadim Antonov wrote: > > > On Mon, 22 Dec 2003, Andy Dills wrote: > > > Hmm...actually, YOUR spam is MY problem. That's how this works. > > > > I applaud njabl. > > Then you've never been on receiving end of their (and their ilk) > viligantine "justice" for no reason other t

.ORG Registrar ID List (was: Stupid .org registry code change)

2003-12-22 Thread Bruce Beckwith
Mike, You should deal with a registrar for this information, since that is one of the services they can provide for you. If you are interested in the cross-reference list, please see http://www.pir.org/whois_search/registrar_whois_ids, which can be accessed via the link at http://www.pir.org/who

ALLTEL contact?

2003-12-22 Thread Allan Carscaddon
Sorry for the noise, but I'm having trouble getting a router on an ALLTEL circuit configured correctly and I am getting caught in the level one support net. Can a clueful ALLTEL network engineer please contact me off list? Thanks, Allan

Re: Minimum Internet MTU

2003-12-22 Thread Stephen J. Wilcox
> You mean like everyone who's still running TCP/IP over AX.25 in the > ham radio community? They're generally technically adept and good at > complaining... I'm sure rbush would encourage his competitors to do this. Whats IP over DNS, 512 bytes.. wouldnt want to kill my hotel access now huh?

Re: Stupid .org registry code change

2003-12-22 Thread Ray Wong
On Mon, Dec 22, 2003 at 04:18:37PM -0700, Michael Lewinski wrote: > > Sponsoring Registrar:R11-LROR > > All I really want to know is the Registrar's name/URL to tell my client > so they can modify their nameservers. > > Does anyone have: > > 1) A URL to the table that will allow me to lookup

Re: Extreme spam testing

2003-12-22 Thread Vadim Antonov
On Mon, 22 Dec 2003, Andy Dills wrote: > Hmm...actually, YOUR spam is MY problem. That's how this works. > > I applaud njabl. Then you've never been on receiving end of their (and their ilk) viligantine "justice" for no reason other than being in the same block of addresses as some hacked win

RE: Stupid .org registry code change

2003-12-22 Thread Alon Tirosh
Strangely enough, PIR doesn't recognize that one... Google-mining seems to indicate that its TUCOWS/OPENSRS, but I wont swear to that. As for actually contacting someone to get it fixed, considering past experience I think nothing short of a public outcry is going to draw attention to the proble

Re: california quake

2003-12-22 Thread Will
On Mon, Dec 22, 2003 at 11:27:01AM -0800, Scott Granados wrote: > Apparently there was just a 6.4 quake in central california. > > We felt it here in San Jose but its probably to minor up here to cause any > disruptions. However closer to the center there may be. We felt it pretty good here in

Re: Minimum Internet MTU

2003-12-22 Thread Jun-ichiro itojun Hagino
> I'm working with a few folks on firewall and IDS rules that will flag > suspicious fragmented traffic. I know the legal minimum of a > non-terminal fragment is 28 bytes, but given non-terminals should > reflect the MTU of the topologies along the link, this number is far > lower than what I expe

Re: Stupid .org registry code change

2003-12-22 Thread Tim Wilde
On Mon, 22 Dec 2003, Tim Wilde wrote: > whois -h whois.pir.org "registry id r11-lror" It would help if I could type. s/registry/registrar/ - sorry. Tim -- Tim Wilde [EMAIL PROTECTED] Systems Administrator Dynamic DNS Network Services http://www.dyndns.org/

Re: Stupid .org registry code change

2003-12-22 Thread Tim Wilde
On Mon, 22 Dec 2003, Michael Lewinski wrote: > > During the recent changes to .org, whois stopped being useful for what > I need. > > > Sponsoring Registrar:R11-LROR > > All I really want to know is the Registrar's name/URL to tell my client > so they can modify their nameservers. > > Does anyon

Stupid .org registry code change

2003-12-22 Thread Michael Lewinski
During the recent changes to .org, whois stopped being useful for what I need. > Sponsoring Registrar:R11-LROR All I really want to know is the Registrar's name/URL to tell my client so they can modify their nameservers. Does anyone have: 1) A URL to the table that will allow me to lookup a n

Re: Trace and Ping with Record Option on Cisco Routers

2003-12-22 Thread Crist Clark
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Hey, Group. > > In my production network, I'm trying to do some extended traces and pings with the > record option turned on to see what route my packets take going and returning. It's > not working. If I do the extended traceroute or ping without the record op

Re: Trace and Ping with Record Option on Cisco Routers

2003-12-22 Thread Chris Griffin
I believe source routing must be permitted in order for the record route to function. Otherwise the packet is dropped. Chris On Mon, 2003-12-22 at 16:45, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hey, Group. > > In my production network, I'm trying to do some extended traces and > pings with the record op

Re: A headsup re Verizon Wireless paging

2003-12-22 Thread Laurence F. Sheldon, Jr.
"Michael R. Wayne" wrote: > > Summary: > If you use Verizon Wireless pagers (pagers with an @myairmail.com > email address) to monitor your network, your alerts may be blocked > without notice. > [snip] > I did get a call back as promised. I mentioned that they were not > filtering on a

Re: Extreme spam testing

2003-12-22 Thread Andy Dills
On Mon, 22 Dec 2003, Chris Brenton wrote: > > If we have a single entitity that does all > > this scanning, we as individual entities do not need to scan ourselves. > > This is going to sound really snippy, but who died and made then > god/goddess of the Internet? Where is the document trail emp

Trace and Ping with Record Option on Cisco Routers

2003-12-22 Thread Danny . Andaluz
Title: Message Hey, Group.    In my production network, I'm trying to do some extended traces and pings with the record option turned on to see what route my packets take going and returning.  It's not working.  If I do the extended traceroute or ping without the record option, it works

www.dhs.gov looking for input for future solicitations

2003-12-22 Thread k claffy
for those who don't speak inside-dc-beltway, the below is a request for information that a well-funded federal agency will use to write a proposal solicitation, to which folks (including but not limited to operators) then write proposals to get ops research funding. (and ultimately, presumabl

smart hands requested in san jose

2003-12-22 Thread joshua sahala
hello all, i was wondering if anyone was interested in some possible ongoing 'smart hands'-type work in the san jose area. ideally looking for someone with some unix (debian), juniper, and/or cabling skills. if you are interested please drop me a note. thanks /joshua /* i hope everyone in th

Re: Request for submissions: messy cabling and other broken things

2003-12-22 Thread Russel Callen
i've started taking pictures of the places i've worked, since I was proud of one...and entertained by another. you can decide which is which: http://gallery.arxys.net/gallery/Cogent/IMGP0320 http://gallery.arxys.net/gallery/Cogent/IMGP0322 http://gallery.arxys.net/gallery/Rivien/main_LAN_rack h

Re: Extreme spam testing

2003-12-22 Thread Niels Bakker
* [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chris Brenton) [Mon 22 Dec 2003, 21:07 CET]: [proxies] > Humm. This is something I have not run into before. Can you supply a URL > that explains how to relay mail though a Telnet or RADIUS server? Older versions of WinGate used to run a listener service on port 23 that would

Re: Extreme spam testing

2003-12-22 Thread Matthew Sullivan
Speaking as and for SORBS (another hated and loved antispam bl).. Chris Lewis wrote: It's worth commenting: Triggering relay testing can occur in a number of different ways. Some simply scan all IPs. I consider this abuse and don't do it. Some scan particular ranges. Same as above ;-) Some

Re: Extreme spam testing

2003-12-22 Thread Chris Brenton
On Mon, 2003-12-22 at 13:46, Andy Dills wrote: > > > Agreed. My spam is _my_ problem and fixing it should not include making > > it everyone else's problem. Forget whether its legal, its pretty > > inconsiderate as many environments flag this stuff as malicious so it > > triggers alerts. > > Hmm.

RE: california quake

2003-12-22 Thread Claydon, Tom
If a fault line slips, then the terrorists have already won. -Original Message- From: Gerald [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 22, 2003 1:34 PM Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: california quake On Mon, 22 Dec 2003, Scott Granados wrote: > Apparently there was just a

RE: california quake

2003-12-22 Thread Roy
Now four 3.x or 4.x shocks south of the major epicenter. I felt the first one also. It was significant shaking. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Aviva Garrett Sent: Monday, December 22, 2003 11:30 AM To: Scott Granados Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: california quake

2003-12-22 Thread Gerald
On Mon, 22 Dec 2003, Scott Granados wrote: > Apparently there was just a 6.4 quake in central california. Terrorists! Gerald

RE: california quake

2003-12-22 Thread Claydon, Tom
According to current data, it was a 6.5, and the epicenter was 7 miles NE of San Simeon, CA. -Original Message- From: Scott Granados [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 22, 2003 1:27 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: california quake Apparently there was just a 6.4 quake

RE: california quake

2003-12-22 Thread Todd Mitchell - lists
| From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott | Granados | Sent: Monday, December 22, 2003 2:27 PM | | Apparently there was just a 6.4 quake in central california. | | We felt it here in San Jose but its probably to minor up here to cause any | disruptions. However clos

Re: california quake

2003-12-22 Thread Aviva Garrett
Yep, we felt it too, in Sunnyvale. It was 6.5, near San Simeon. http://quake.wr.usgs.gov/recenteqs/Quakes/nc40148755.htm In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>you wr ite: > > Apparently there was just a 6.4 quake in central california. > > We felt it here in San Jose but its probably to minor up here

california quake

2003-12-22 Thread Scott Granados
Apparently there was just a 6.4 quake in central california. We felt it here in San Jose but its probably to minor up here to cause any disruptions. However closer to the center there may be.

Re: A headsup re Verizon Wireless paging

2003-12-22 Thread Bill Woodcock
On Mon, 22 Dec 2003, Dave O'Shea wrote: > If you have one of the > super-duper(tm) motorola pagers that skytel uses, you > can even filter those messages so they won't set off > the audible alert; they just show up in the "received" > list. Same with the Blackberry/RIM s

Re: A headsup re Verizon Wireless paging

2003-12-22 Thread Dave O'Shea
I'm not sure I'd fault Verizon, it's got to be a major pain to keep the spam level down on pagers. It would probably be useful if SMS/paging companies posted a "this is the approved way to" guide for customers. I set up nagios/netsaint with a pager system, and programmed it to send an "all is

Re: Extreme spam testing

2003-12-22 Thread Andy Dills
On Mon, 22 Dec 2003, Chris Brenton wrote: > > I hate spammers. I loathe and > > despise them. I hate njabl even more. > > Agreed. My spam is _my_ problem and fixing it should not include making > it everyone else's problem. Forget whether its legal, its pretty > inconsiderate as many environment

Re: Extreme spam testing

2003-12-22 Thread Chris Lewis
Robin Lynn Frank wrote: This is not the only list where this is occurring. It has been happening on the spamtools list, as well. We've now dropped them at the firewall. No loss to us. It's worth commenting: Triggering relay testing can occur in a number of different ways. Some simply scan

Broadwing Network Status Page?

2003-12-22 Thread daryl
One of my customers is experiencing what I'm being told is backhoe fade in the Philadelphia area. It's a Broadwing circuit resold by another party, so they won't talk to me directly. Does anyone know if they have a network status page? I've not found anything googling around. Thanks, Daryl G.

A headsup re Verizon Wireless paging

2003-12-22 Thread Michael R. Wayne
Summary: If you use Verizon Wireless pagers (pagers with an @myairmail.com email address) to monitor your network, your alerts may be blocked without notice. The saga: We use multiple paging companies for our pagers, under the theory that redundancy is a "good thing". Last week, our peop

Re: Extreme spam testing

2003-12-22 Thread Chris Brenton
On Mon, 2003-12-22 at 11:04, Etaoin Shrdlu wrote: > > Um, welcome to the world of spam nazis. I've seen returning MX queries and even source address validation, but never anything this excessive up till now. IMHO its hard to tell if they are looking for spam relays to reduce spam, or because they

Re: Extreme spam testing

2003-12-22 Thread Etaoin Shrdlu
Chris Brenton wrote: > > Greets again all, > > I noticed something kind of interesting when I made my last post to > NANOG. I can understand people wanting to do spam checking, but IMHO > this is a bit excessive and inconsiderate. > > I'm guessing njabl.org is doing this to everyone who posts t

Re: Minimum Internet MTU

2003-12-22 Thread Chris Brenton
On Mon, 2003-12-22 at 09:36, Robert E. Seastrom wrote: > > You mean like everyone who's still running TCP/IP over AX.25 in the > ham radio community? I actually thought of this, but only as an end-point which would not generate fragmented packets. I didn't consider that people could be using Lin

Re: Minimum Internet MTU

2003-12-22 Thread Scott McGrath
Or the X.25/IP gateways beloved of Airlines who are also good at complaining when traffic is dropped on the floor Scott C. McGrath On 22 Dec 2003, Robert E. Seastrom wrote: > > > Chris Brenton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > I agree, this is a bit of a loaded

Re: Minimum Internet MTU

2003-12-22 Thread Robert E. Seastrom
Chris Brenton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I agree, this is a bit of a loaded question. I guess by safe I mean "Is > anyone aware of a specific link or set of conditions that could cause > _legitimate_ non-last fragmented packets on the wire that have a size of > less than 1200 bytes". I agree

Extreme spam testing

2003-12-22 Thread Chris Brenton
Greets again all, I noticed something kind of interesting when I made my last post to NANOG. I can understand people wanting to do spam checking, but IMHO this is a bit excessive and inconsiderate. I'm guessing njabl.org is doing this to everyone who posts to the list, so I thought others might

Re: Minimum Internet MTU

2003-12-22 Thread Chris Brenton
On Mon, 2003-12-22 at 08:27, bill wrote: > > > Is is safe to assume > > that 99.9% of the Internet is running on 1500 MTU or higher these days? > > define safe. I agree, this is a bit of a loaded question. I guess by safe I mean "Is anyone aware of a specific link or set of conditions t

Re: Minimum Internet MTU

2003-12-22 Thread Hani Mustafa
> by GRE or IPSec. With this in mind, would we be safe to flag/drop/what > ever all fragments smaller than 1200 bytes that are not last fragments > (i.e., more fragments is still set)? No. Check previous thread about IPSec and MTU. Some IPSec implementations split the greater-than-mtu sized pac

Re: Minimum Internet MTU

2003-12-22 Thread bill
> > > A few years back I noted some 512-536 MTU links in ASIA. I've been doing > some testing and can't seem to find them anymore. Is is safe to assume > that 99.9% of the Internet is running on 1500 MTU or higher these days? define safe. > I know some people artificially set their e

Re: Minimum Internet MTU

2003-12-22 Thread Neil J. McRae
> Is is safe to assume > that 99.9% of the Internet is running on 1500 MTU or higher these days? I'd say no, usually you'll find that the one site your customer is interested in the most has some braindead configuration and you never hear the end of it.

Minimum Internet MTU

2003-12-22 Thread Chris Brenton
Greetings all, I'm working with a few folks on firewall and IDS rules that will flag suspicious fragmented traffic. I know the legal minimum of a non-terminal fragment is 28 bytes, but given non-terminals should reflect the MTU of the topologies along the link, this number is far lower than what