Re: Why do so few mail providers support Port 587?

2005-02-19 Thread Sean Donelan
On Sat, 19 Feb 2005, J.D. Falk wrote: > > Has AOL notified anyone in advance? Quite a few provider-independent > > mail providers were caught by surprise. > > Is there a mailing list that will reach all/most of these > provider-independent mail providers? > > (If so, then that's

Re: Why do so few mail providers support Port 587?

2005-02-19 Thread J.D. Falk
On 02/19/05, Florian Weimer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > * Sean Donelan: > > > Yet another reason for supporting port 587 on your servers for remote > > authenticated mail submission from your users. If you don't support > > port 587, and use SPF, it may break when AOL or other providers re-di

Re: NANOG Changes

2005-02-19 Thread J.D. Falk
On 02/19/05, Steve Gibbard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'd been waiting to hear that the nanog-futures list had actually been > created before urging that this discussion move there. Since it sounds > like it has been, now would probably be a good time to move the > discussion. *agree

RE: NANOG Changes

2005-02-19 Thread Hannigan, Martin
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of > Joe Provo > Sent: Saturday, February 19, 2005 7:22 AM > To: nanog@merit.edu > Subject: Re: NANOG Changes > > > > On Thu, Feb 17, 2005 at 10:19:45PM +0200, Gadi Evron wrote: > > Scott Weeks wrote: > >

Re: Why do so few mail providers support Port 587?

2005-02-19 Thread Florian Weimer
* Sean Donelan: > Yet another reason for supporting port 587 on your servers for remote > authenticated mail submission from your users. If you don't support > port 587, and use SPF, it may break when AOL or other providers re-direct > port 25. > > http://www.heise.de/english/newsticker/news/564

Re: NANOG Changes

2005-02-19 Thread Joe Provo
On Thu, Feb 17, 2005 at 10:19:45PM +0200, Gadi Evron wrote: > Scott Weeks wrote: > >On Thu, 17 Feb 2005, Gadi Evron wrote: > > > >: want to see at this headache of a position, or we do it openly on the > > > > > >Yes, publically. Please. > > Publically - on NANOG itself, please. Please no. Spe

RE: NANOG Changes

2005-02-19 Thread Steve Gibbard
It should be noted that Michel is speaking only for himself, and not for the nanog-reform group (and I haven't seen any concensus among the nanog-reform group yet on the draft bylaws that Michel is referring to). I am also speaking only for myself on this. I'd been waiting to hear that the nanog