Re: oof. panix sidelined by incompetence... again.

2006-01-22 Thread Randy Bush
> As of the now (according to Panix; I haven't independantly verified > it), Verio is (at Panix's request) rejecting the route from ConEd, and > Panix's upstreams are accepting the /17s, so connectivity should be > OK from everywhere except possibly ConEd. are the following two statements true?

Re: oof. panix sidelined by incompetence... again.

2006-01-22 Thread Todd Underwood
Folx, On Sun, Jan 22, 2006 at 06:09:08PM +, Thor Lancelot Simon wrote: > This is hardly as serious as the last incident -- but, well, some people > do seem to have all the luck, eh? >From where I'm standing this situation looks much more serious than the last one. It looks like Con Edison

Re: Security inside AS

2006-01-22 Thread Glen Kent
Yes - we do for IBGP, IS-IS, OSPF (where relevent), also LDP, HSRP, and anything else that offers the feature (even cleartext). It proves a useful guard against misconfiguration, as well as preventing certain security issues. -- > Just one more question. What kind of misconfiguration isues does us

RE: The Backhoe: A Real Cyberthreat?

2006-01-22 Thread Fergie
You mean, like, a drone army of botnet zombies? ;-) - ferg -- "Bevan Slattery" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: You're comments are spot on. There are far more simpler, destructive, portable, scalable and inexpensive ways to achieve the same end. Any fibre provider knows what they are and hopes th

RE: The Backhoe: A Real Cyberthreat?

2006-01-22 Thread Bevan Slattery
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Daniel Golding > Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 3:59 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > If I was a terrorist, I'd rather try to take out points of fiber concentration, and my tool would not be a backhoe. I

Re: oof. panix sidelined by incompetence... again.

2006-01-22 Thread Brett Frankenberger
On Sun, Jan 22, 2006 at 10:33:04AM -0800, william(at)elan.net wrote: > > Can there be a confirmation of this? I see no such MOTD at > http://www.panix.com/panix/help/Announcements/ I don't know how realtime that is ... but Panix (including their web site) was unreachable from several points ear

Re: is this like a peering war somehow?

2006-01-22 Thread Mikael Abrahamsson
On Sun, 22 Jan 2006, Petri Helenius wrote: And the real question is if the money is better spent on implementing preferential treatment or upgrading the infrastructure as a whole. If you have an 8meg ADSL line and want to deliver IPTV you need some kind of preferential treatment to the TV pa

Re: oof. panix sidelined by incompetence... again.

2006-01-22 Thread Thor Lancelot Simon
On Sun, Jan 22, 2006 at 10:33:04AM -0800, william(at)elan.net wrote: > > > Can there be a confirmation of this? I see no such MOTD at > http://www.panix.com/panix/help/Announcements/ Verio was just extremely helpful and filtered out the bogus Panix routes ConED was sending them quite rapidly u

Re: oof. panix sidelined by incompetence... again.

2006-01-22 Thread william(at)elan.net
Can there be a confirmation of this? I see no such MOTD at http://www.panix.com/panix/help/Announcements/ and my connection to panix is fine and route I see is 166.84.0.0/17 with origin in 2033. I also checked at routeviews.org and similarly all their peers see origin in in 2033. Is there some

oof. panix sidelined by incompetence... again.

2006-01-22 Thread Thor Lancelot Simon
This is hardly as serious as the last incident -- but, well, some people do seem to have all the luck, eh? Of course, there are measures one can take against this sort of thing; but it's hard to deploy some of them effectively when the party stealing your routes was in fact once authorized to of

Re: cctld server traffic

2006-01-22 Thread Elmar K. Bins
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Randy Bush) wrote: > any cctld ops seeing unusual traffic in the last hours? .de didn't. What should we have expected? Cheers, Elmar.

Re: is this like a peering war somehow?

2006-01-22 Thread Petri Helenius
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And if you are spending the extra money to implement preferential treatment, can you be sure that there is a market willing to pay extra for this? And the real question is if the money is better spent on implementing preferential treatment or upgrading the infra