Re: mail operators list

2007-10-30 Thread Alex Pilosov
On Wed, 31 Oct 2007, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote: > Well, the current nanog MLC is mostly because Susan Harris was cracking > down equally on discussions of anything mail / spam filtering related > (operational not kooky) .. in fact, on anything that didnt involve > pushing packets from A to B.

Re: mail operators list

2007-10-30 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
Well, the current nanog MLC is mostly because Susan Harris was cracking down equally on discussions of anything mail / spam filtering related (operational not kooky) .. in fact, on anything that didnt involve pushing packets from A to B. And we have Marty Hannigan from the MLC telling us that ope

Re: RIPE is just more fun.

2007-10-30 Thread James Aldridge
Michael Greb wrote: > Barrett Lyon wrote: > >> On Fri, Oct 26, 2007 at 03:42:27PM -0400, Leo Bicknell wrote: > >>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_y36fG2Oba0 > > > I yanked the mp3 out of the youtube flv: http://blyon.com/routers_died.mp3 > > -Barrett > > Better, now we just need a higher quali

BellSouth.net Mail Operator? (was:Re: Any help for Yahoo!...)

2007-10-30 Thread chuck goolsbee
Martin Hannigan said: Mail problems that are operational in nature are more than welcome here. Thanks Martin. So... If there are any bellsouth.net mail ops people here, please contact me privately. We had an out of control .forward user who we have larted/fixed permanently (well over two we

Re: Any help for Yahoo! Mail arrogance?

2007-10-30 Thread Martin Hannigan
On 10/30/07, chuck goolsbee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >believe me, if your user is jackass enough to click report spam on > >email that comes through his .forward the complaints can go up real > >high) .. is enough to get your IP blocked. > > > While there really should be some sort of partic

Re: mail operators list

2007-10-30 Thread Al Iverson
On 10/30/07, Andy Davidson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 30 Oct 2007, at 16:21, Daniel Senie wrote: > > > At 12:07 PM 10/30/2007, Al Iverson wrote: > >> On 10/30/07, chuck goolsbee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > On a more relevant and operational sort of note, it sure would be > >> > nice i

Re: Any help for Yahoo! Mail arrogance?

2007-10-30 Thread Daniel Senie
At 12:07 PM 10/30/2007, Al Iverson wrote: On 10/30/07, chuck goolsbee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On a more relevant and operational sort of note, it sure would be > nice if there were a NAMOG (North American Mail Operators Group) or > the like to resolve these sorts of issues. Feel free to

Re: Any help for Yahoo! Mail arrogance?

2007-10-30 Thread Al Iverson
On 10/30/07, chuck goolsbee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On a more relevant and operational sort of note, it sure would be > nice if there were a NAMOG (North American Mail Operators Group) or > the like to resolve these sorts of issues. Feel free to clue-by-four > me if I've missed it. MAAWG co

Re: Any help for Yahoo! Mail arrogance?

2007-10-30 Thread chuck goolsbee
believe me, if your user is jackass enough to click report spam on email that comes through his .forward the complaints can go up real high) .. is enough to get your IP blocked. While there really should be some sort of particularly painful and embarrassing punishment for this sort of jackas

Re: Any help for Yahoo! Mail arrogance?

2007-10-30 Thread Joe Greco
> > I'm pretty sure > > none of our systems have been compromised and forwards mail that we > > don't know about. > > Yet your sending IP reputation is poor Do you actually have data that confirms that? We've had random problems mailing Hotmail (frequently), Yahoo! (infrequently), and other

Re: What can you use DSCP for?

2007-10-30 Thread BELLEVILLE Ray
Triple play Solutions use DSCP all over the place. Lots of differenciated services, especially when subscriber management comes into play. Triple play is turning into 4 and 5xplay, then add the varying degrees of service and bundles available across the different services, and different requirem

Re: Any help for Yahoo! Mail arrogance?

2007-10-30 Thread Al Iverson
On 10/30/07, Tuc at T-B-O-H.NET <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Oct 29, 2007 11:01 PM, Tuc at T-B-O-H.NET <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > "Fix your forwarding a lot better". Not sure what this > > > means. My machines are MX's for the clients domain. They > > > accept it, and either

Re: Dynamically Changing Exit Policy (iBGP)

2007-10-30 Thread Benjamin Howell
On Tue, Oct 30, 2007 at 12:55:24AM -0400, Jon Lewis wrote: > > On Mon, 29 Oct 2007, Benjamin Howell wrote: > > >On Mon, Oct 29, 2007 at 04:53:50PM -0400, Deepak Jain wrote: > >>You can "nail" down your announcements to external peers by tying their > >>network blocks to a route-of-last resort on

Re: Any help for Yahoo! Mail arrogance?

2007-10-30 Thread Tuc at T-B-O-H.NET
> > > On Oct 29, 2007 11:01 PM, Tuc at T-B-O-H.NET <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > "Fix your forwarding a lot better". Not sure what this > > means. My machines are MX's for the clients domain. They > > accept it, and either forward it around locally to one of the > > processing MX's o

Re: Any help for Yahoo! Mail arrogance?

2007-10-30 Thread Tuc at T-B-O-H.NET
> > On 10/29/07, Tuc at T-B-O-H.NET <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > On 10/29/07, Tuc at T-B-O-H.NET <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > "Unfortunately, we cannot provide you with > > > > specific information other than to suggest a review > > > > of the questionnaire

What can you use DSCP for?

2007-10-30 Thread Sean Donelan
On Mon, 29 Oct 2007, John Kristoff wrote: How much has really changed? Do you (or if someone on these big nets wants to own up offlist) have pointers to indicate that deployment is significantly different now than they were a couple years ago? Even better, perhaps someone can do a preso at a f