While it has the potential to catch fire - it does however work fine in my
car engine.
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Justin Shore
Sent: 25 March 2008 14:20
To: Dorn Hetzel
Cc: nanog list
Subject: Re: rack power question
Dorn Hetzel wr
There comes a point where you cant physically transfer the energy using air
any more - not less you wana break the laws a physics captin (couldn't
resist sorry) - to your DX system, gas, then water, then in rack (expensive)
cooling, water and CO2. Sooner or later we will sink the hole room in oil,
IX and all peers are one hop away.
Kind Regards
Ben
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From: Danny McPherson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 15 February 2008 01:16
To: Ben Butler
Cc: Hank Nussbacher
Subject: Re: BGP TTL Security
On Feb 14, 2008, at 6:12 PM, Ben Butler wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I have
this a Cisco bug?
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Hi,
"your point here is that perhaps instead of this scheme one would just
advertise the max-prefix-length (/24 currently) from a 'better' place on
your network and suck all the 'bad' traffic (all traffic in point of
fact) for the attacked destination via a transit/peer/place which can
deal with
Hi Barry,
Thank you for some really useful pointers, I am off to do some more
reading.
Kind Regards
Ben
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Barry Greene (bgreene)
Sent: 03 February 2008 21:07
To: Christopher Morrow; Tomas L. Byrnes
Cc: nan
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From: Tomas L. Byrnes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 03 February 2008 07:54
To: Ben Butler; nanog@merit.edu
Subject: RE: Blackholes and IXs and Completing the Attack.
"Well then they wouldn't be peering with this route reflector "
Well then, the utility is
From: Rick Astley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 03 February 2008 06:56
To: Ben Butler
Cc: nanog@merit.edu
Subject: Re: Blackholes and IXs and Completing the Attack.
I see your point, but I think maintaining the box for the control
session would also require a decent amount of work.
Presumably,
it.
Kind Regards
Ben
From: Rick Astley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 03 February 2008 01:02
To: Ben Butler
Cc: nanog@merit.edu
Subject: Re: Blackholes and IXs and Completing the Attack.
While I am not sure I fully understand your suggestion, I don't
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From: Tomas L. Byrnes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 02 February 2008 20:39
To: Ben Butler; Paul Vixie; nanog@merit.edu
Subject: RE: Blackholes and IXs and Completing the Attack.
You could achieve the exact same result simply by not advertising the
network to your peers, or by advertising a bogus
AN infrastructure to ensure
enough head room ideal capacity is a particularly economically sensible
approach to the problem.
Ben
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Sent: 02 February 2008 21:37
To: Ben Butler
Cc: nanog@merit.edu
Sub
D]
Sent: 02 February 2008 20:49
To: Ben Butler
Cc: NANOG NANOG
Subject: Re: Blackholes and IXs and Completing the Attack.
On Feb 2, 2008, at 1:16 PM, Ben Butler wrote:
>
> So, given we all now understand each other - why is no one doing the
> above?
Some folks are doing this, just n
ng the Attack.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ("Ben Butler") writes:
> ...
> This hopefully will ensure a relatively protected router that is only
> accessible from the edge routers we want and also secured to only
> accept filtered announcements for black holing and in consequence
to, so why is the above a
dumb idea / what have I missed that makes the above unworkable because
it does seem kind of obvious now I have done some work with this.
Kind Regards
Ben Butler
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Hi,
Is not the other danger that any anti Dos measure is likely to fail
unless unified over a significant % of the Internet / AS numbers to
block to the BotNet client machines at source within their home AS.
Once the army has been amassed and escaped their home ASes they can
launch an attack aga
Or even Blue Security.
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Ben Butler
Sent: 22 January 2008 10:26
To: nanog@merit.edu
Subject: RE: Lessons from the AU model
Hi,
Regarding Dos filtering, I guess that really depends on whether we are
Hi,
Regarding Dos filtering, I guess that really depends on whether we are
talking about completing the attack and filtering in upstream transits,
or, filtering source / traffic classification within the AS keeping the
destination alive throughout the attack and utilising WAN/Transit
bandwidth in
the Internet.
--
TTFN,
patrick
On Jan 20, 2008, at 7:08 AM, Ben Butler wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> Out of curiosity was the reasoning also to charge the PA who are
> deagregating?
>
> To restate there are 113,220 extra routes smaller than RIR minimums
> out
> of the /24:126,450
Hi,
Out of curiosity was the reasoning also to charge the PA who are
deagregating?
To restate there are 113,220 extra routes smaller than RIR minimums out
of the /24:126,450 in the table. The today reality seems to be that
113K of that 126K is probably being caused by existing networks
de-aggre
Hi,
That is where I got to last night with my cogitations before I feel
asleep.
Ben
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Robert Bonomi
Sent: 16 January 2008 01:26
To: nanog@merit.edu
Subject: Re: BGP Filtering
> Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2008 15:1
m: Deepak Jain [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 15 January 2008 22:09
To: Ben Butler
Cc: nanog@merit.edu
Subject: Re: BGP Filtering
> But if I can see the /19 in the table, do I care about a load of /24s
> because the whole of the /19 should be reachable as the origin AS is
> announcing
though?
Ben
From: Dave Israel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 15 January 2008 17:51
To: Ben Butler
Cc: nanog@merit.edu
Subject: Re: BGP Filtering
Ben,
I think I understand what you want, and you don't want it. If you
receive a route for, say, 204.9
hances.
Bogons - obviously.
My question was if what I was asking was possible.
Kind Regards
Ben
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From: Joe Abley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 15 January 2008 17:07
To: Ben Butler
Cc: nanog@merit.edu
Subject: Re: BGP Filtering
On 15-Jan-2008, at 11:40, B
refix list for lots and
lots and lots of reasons.
If the longer prefix disappears from the route table I want to stop
filtering the shorter prefixes - automatically.
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From: Mike Walter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 15 January 2008 16:52
To: Ben Butler; nanog@merit.edu
Su
7;t
helped - so a handy pointer would be appreciated.
Kind Regards
Ben
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From: Jason Dearborn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 15 January 2008 16:35
To: Ben Butler
Subject: Re: BGP Filtering
That's typically a function of your router software. Juniper, Force10,
and
gards
Ben
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From: Jared Mauch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 15 January 2008 16:19
To: Ben Butler
Cc: nanog@merit.edu
Subject: Re: BGP Filtering
On Tue, Jan 15, 2008 at 04:11:36PM -, Ben Butler wrote:
> As a transit consumer - why would I want to carry all this cr*p in
Hi,
Considering:
http://thyme.apnic.net
Total number of prefixes smaller than registry allocations: 113220
!
/20:17046 /21:16106 /22:20178 /23:21229 /24:126450
That is saying to me that a significant number of these smaller prefixes
are due to de-aggregation of PA and not PI
Hi,
I am visiting Vancouver (Canada not Washington) between 25 Aug and 12
Sept if there is anyone in the area that wants to meet up for a beer.
Kind Regards
Ben
Hi,
Hoping someone may
be able to help.
Could someone please
point me in the direction of any legislation / regulations that would effect
providers of "Internet access" (DSL & Metro Ethernet) services to
residential and business customers located in the US
and Canada.
Am I correct in
Hi,
My parents flew back from New York to Manchester yesterday - complete
with clear plastic bag - less cough syrup which was refused entry onto
the plane.
Ti it seems to be (some) flights terminating in the UK not simply
originating there.
Ben
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Hi,
This should sort you out.
no keepalive
spanning-tree bpdufilter enable
Kind Regards
Ben
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rowing BGP table size. And yes I do know that if
I was running Quagga on a PC I could have 4GB of inexpensive RAM very
easily, but I want to avoid the x is better than y discussion.
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