Re: Anyone heard of INOC-DBA?

2006-02-06 Thread Michael . Dillon
> > How about INOC-DBA, which is supposed to have a clue threshold you > > obtained an ASN by some means in order to have a dial-by-asn phone. > > Obtaining an ASN isn't much of a clue threshold. However, obtaining an ASN is a volume threshold which is far more important to the people on the rec

RE: Anyone heard of INOC-DBA?

2006-02-04 Thread Bill Woodcock
> > I believe SBC was one of the pilot users in 1993. > using what protocol set? Sorry, 2003. -Bill

RE: Anyone heard of INOC-DBA?

2006-02-04 Thread Randy Bush
> I believe SBC was one of the pilot users in 1993. using what protocol set? randy

RE: Anyone heard of INOC-DBA?

2006-02-04 Thread Bill Woodcock
On Sat, 4 Feb 2006, Henry Linneweh wrote: > The only reference I see to this, is this non profit > research org > www.pch.net/inoc-dba/ > and a Nanog reference page to the same thing > http://www.nanog.org/mtg-0505/upadhaya.html Yes, those are correct URLs. Quite a few

Re: Anyone heard of INOC-DBA?

2006-02-04 Thread Bill Woodcock
On Sat, 4 Feb 2006, Jeroen Massar wrote: > Maybe the RIR's should keep a "Free VoIP phone with each ASN" special? NIC.BR, the Brazilian NIR, does exactly that... they've given out about 200 INOC-DBA phones with ASNs in the last three years. NetNod does the same in Sweden, and the WA

Re: Anyone heard of INOC-DBA?

2006-02-04 Thread Jeroen Massar
Something I (unless skipped) didn't see being mentioned in the former threads was: http://www.peeringdb.com, although meant for peerings it does contain quite a large number of direct links/phones to various NOC's and a lot of other very useful information. On Fri, 2006-02-03 at 15:59 -0500, Richa

RE: Anyone heard of INOC-DBA?

2006-02-04 Thread Henry Linneweh
just call Chris Morrow. Just kidding Chris! :-) > > - Wayne > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > > Behalf Of Christopher L. Morrow > > Sent: Friday, February 03, 2006 4:31 PM > > To: Richard A St

RE: Anyone heard of INOC-DBA?

2006-02-04 Thread Christopher L. Morrow
On Sat, 4 Feb 2006, Henry Linneweh wrote: > > The only reference I see to this, is this non profit > research org > www.pch.net/inoc-dba/ > and a Nanog reference page to the same thing > http://www.nanog.org/mtg-0505/upadhaya.html > that would be it... I'm sure that, aside from the presentation

RE: Anyone heard of INOC-DBA?

2006-02-04 Thread Wayne Gustavus (nanog)
gt; From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Christopher L. Morrow > Sent: Friday, February 03, 2006 4:31 PM > To: Richard A Steenbergen > Cc: Sean Donelan; nanog@merit.edu > Subject: Re: Anyone heard of INOC-DBA? > > > > > On Fri, 3 Feb 2006

Re: Anyone heard of INOC-DBA?

2006-02-03 Thread Christopher L. Morrow
On Fri, 3 Feb 2006, Richard A Steenbergen wrote: > And then of course there is that whole "using the IP network to contact > someone about an IP network issue" thing that doesn't seem terribly well > thought out... Admittedly I haven't looked at the INOC-DBA stuff in a > while, there could have

Re: Anyone heard of INOC-DBA?

2006-02-03 Thread Joe Abley
On 3-Feb-2006, at 15:59, Richard A Steenbergen wrote: With all due respect to the INOC-DBA project, which is actually somewhat interesting (from a "I want to play with free IP phones too" perspective if nothing else), it isn't a workable solution to operational contacts yet. I think you

Re: Anyone heard of INOC-DBA?

2006-02-03 Thread Jon Lewis
On Fri, 3 Feb 2006, Aaron Glenn wrote: On 2/3/06, Sean Donelan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: How about INOC-DBA, which is supposed to have a clue threshold you obtained an ASN by some means in order to have a dial-by-asn phone. Obtaining an ASN isn't much of a clue threshold. No...and sometim

Re: Anyone heard of INOC-DBA?

2006-02-03 Thread Richard A Steenbergen
On Fri, Feb 03, 2006 at 02:34:16PM -0500, Sean Donelan wrote: > > On Fri, 3 Feb 2006, Richard A Steenbergen wrote: > > Until someone invents a universally recognized system where you can call > > and say "Hi I'm CCIE #12345, I'm certified to know what I'm talking about > > and I have an actual ne

Re: Anyone heard of INOC-DBA?

2006-02-03 Thread Tom Vest
On Feb 3, 2006, at 2:57 PM, Aaron Glenn wrote: On 2/3/06, Sean Donelan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: How about INOC-DBA, which is supposed to have a clue threshold you obtained an ASN by some means in order to have a dial-by-asn phone. Obtaining an ASN isn't much of a clue threshold. If that

Re: Anyone heard of INOC-DBA?

2006-02-03 Thread Wayne E. Bouchard
On Fri, Feb 03, 2006 at 03:08:27PM -0500, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote: > > On Feb 3, 2006, at 2:57 PM, Aaron Glenn wrote: > > >On 2/3/06, Sean Donelan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>How about INOC-DBA, which is supposed to have a clue threshold you > >>obtained an ASN by some means in order to have

Re: Anyone heard of INOC-DBA?

2006-02-03 Thread Patrick W. Gilmore
On Feb 3, 2006, at 2:57 PM, Aaron Glenn wrote: On 2/3/06, Sean Donelan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: How about INOC-DBA, which is supposed to have a clue threshold you obtained an ASN by some means in order to have a dial-by-asn phone. Obtaining an ASN isn't much of a clue threshold. Knowing

Re: Anyone heard of INOC-DBA?

2006-02-03 Thread Aaron Glenn
On 2/3/06, Sean Donelan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > How about INOC-DBA, which is supposed to have a clue threshold you > obtained an ASN by some means in order to have a dial-by-asn phone. Obtaining an ASN isn't much of a clue threshold.

Anyone heard of INOC-DBA?

2006-02-03 Thread Sean Donelan
On Fri, 3 Feb 2006, Richard A Steenbergen wrote: > Until someone invents a universally recognized system where you can call > and say "Hi I'm CCIE #12345, I'm certified to know what I'm talking about > and I have an actual network issue, please transfer me to someone with > clue", we're going to c