Re: How important is IM? was RE: How important is the PSTN

2002-06-27 Thread Roger Marquis
Rizzo Frank <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > By "IM" I assume you're referring to Instant Messaging as an ideal, not > any particular protocol or vendor implementation. Which begs the > question, is "IM" is a risk IM has been a risk since it was introduced as the Unix `talk` program. Responsible c

Re: How important is the PSTN

2002-06-26 Thread Scott Francis
On Tue, Jun 25, 2002 at 03:19:52PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: > > > -Original Message- > > From: Pawlukiewicz Jane > > > > Is it me or is it very quiet in here today? > > > > Everybody is off tyring to get openssh 3.3 compiled and installed. :) s/3.3/3.4/ also apache and the resol

Re: How important is IM? was RE: How important is the PSTN

2002-06-26 Thread Scott Francis
On Tue, Jun 25, 2002 at 11:33:55PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: > Doug Barton wrote: > > Would a secure (probably via SSL) chat client be considered a valuable > > item in this sphere? (Note, blatant self interest involved in this > > question, feel free to respond off list.) > Jabber can do SSL

Re: How important is IM? was RE: How important is the PSTN

2002-06-26 Thread Scott Francis
On Tue, Jun 25, 2002 at 12:16:48PM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: [snip] > This brings up a good point about IM. IMHO, IM is a security risk and I am > establishing a company standard where users behind the firewall are > prohibited from using IM, IRC, and peer-to-peer file sharing programs. My

Re: How important is IM? was RE: How important is the PSTN

2002-06-26 Thread Scott Weeks
On Wed, 26 Jun 2002, Stephen Sprunk wrote: : Thus spake "Scott Weeks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : > Your proprietary information is on someone else's server and it's up to : > them not to 'use' it. : : There are IM products which a company can set up internally for exactly this : reason. For public

Re: How important is IM? was RE: How important is the PSTN

2002-06-26 Thread Stephen Sprunk
Thus spake "Scott Weeks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Your proprietary information is on someone else's server and it's up to > them not to 'use' it. There are IM products which a company can set up internally for exactly this reason. For public IM servers, you're not obligated to give "proprietary in

Re: How important is IM? was RE: How important is the PSTN

2002-06-26 Thread Scott Weeks
On Wed, 26 Jun 2002, Rizzo Frank wrote: : Chris, : : By "IM" I assume you're referring to Instant Messaging as an ideal, not : any particular protocol or vendor implementation. Which begs the : question, is "IM" is a risk because Christopher J. Wolff, VP CIO a : self-proclaimed tier 1 provide

Re: How important is IM? was RE: How important is the PSTN

2002-06-26 Thread Rizzo Frank
Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2002 12:06 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: How important is the PSTN

2002-06-26 Thread Pawlukiewicz Jane
Jason Lewis wrote: > > > Is it me or is it very quiet in here today? > > > > Jane > > All the frequent posters have been banned for 6 months. ;) No way. I've seen them post about not being able to post. Maybe they're being shy. Dunno. Have a great day. Big meeting at noon and I really have t

Re: How important is IM? was RE: How important is the PSTN

2002-06-26 Thread Pawlukiewicz Jane
soon. Jane > > Regards, > Christopher J. Wolff, VP CIO > Broadband Laboratories > http://www.bblabs.com > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of > Pawlukiewicz Jane > Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2002 12:06 PM > To:

RE: How important is IM? was RE: How important is the PSTN

2002-06-25 Thread Scott Weeks
EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of : > Christopher J. Wolff : > Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2002 3:17 PM : > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] : > Subject: How important is IM? was RE: How important is the PSTN : > : > : > : > Jane, : > : > This brings up a good point about IM

Re: How important is IM? was RE: How important is the PSTN

2002-06-25 Thread Scott Weeks
On Tue, 25 Jun 2002, ren wrote: : PGP Corporate Desktop can help with ICQ if you are a Windows user. : -ren, who prefers IRC Not for long... http://zdnet.com.com/2100-1107-851515.html "A week ago, on Feb. 26, Network Associates (NAI) sent an e-mail to some of its customers ann

RE: How important is IM? was RE: How important is the PSTN

2002-06-25 Thread Rishi Singh
> From: Christopher J. Wolff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2002 3:17 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: How important is IM? was RE: How important is the PSTN > > > > Jane, > > This brings up a go

RE: How important is IM? was RE: How important is the PSTN

2002-06-25 Thread Jim Popovitch
> -Original Message- > From: Jason Lewis > > > Instead of banning, you should be looking into a secure IM client. > Several companies make secure clients that also link up to the major > players via a gateway. > Trillian is a combined (AIM, Y!, ICQ, IRC) client that supports secure direc

Re: How important is IM? was RE: How important is the PSTN

2002-06-25 Thread deeann mikula
On Tue, 25 Jun 2002, Dan Hollis wrote: > > On Tue, 25 Jun 2002, Christopher J. Wolff wrote: > > So my question for the group is, do chat programs (IM, IRC, yahoo) serve a > > substantial network support purpose or are they more of a distraction, > > allowing staff to communicate with friends, re

RE: How important is IM? was RE: How important is the PSTN

2002-06-25 Thread James Smith
Title: RE: How important is IM? was RE: How important is the PSTN > -Original Message- > From: Christopher J. Wolff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2002 3:17 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: How important is IM? was RE: How important is the

RE: How important is IM? was RE: How important is the PSTN

2002-06-25 Thread Daniel Golding
, so an outage there may effect your operations. - Daniel Golding > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of > Christopher J. Wolff > Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2002 3:17 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: How important is

Re: How important is IM? was RE: How important is the PSTN

2002-06-25 Thread Scott Call
> > > my question for the group is, do chat programs (IM, IRC, yahoo) serve a >substantial network support purpose or are they more of a distraction, >allowing staff to communicate with friends, relatives, drifters, interlopers >on company time? > > We run an internal Jabber server which all e

Re: How important is IM? was RE: How important is the PSTN

2002-06-25 Thread ren
PGP Corporate Desktop can help with ICQ if you are a Windows user. -ren, who prefers IRC At 12:24 PM 6/25/2002 -0700, Dan Hollis wrote: >On Tue, 25 Jun 2002, Christopher J. Wolff wrote: > > So my question for the group is, do chat programs (IM, IRC, yahoo) serve a > > substantial network suppor

Re: How important is IM? was RE: How important is the PSTN

2002-06-25 Thread Grant A. Kirkwood
On Tuesday 25 June 2002 12:16 pm, Christopher J. Wolff wrote: > Jane, > > This brings up a good point about IM. IMHO, IM is a security risk and I > am establishing a company standard where users behind the firewall are > prohibited from using IM, IRC, and peer-to-peer file sharing programs. > M

Re: How important is IM? was RE: How important is the PSTN

2002-06-25 Thread Jason Lewis
> So my question for the group is, do chat programs (IM, IRC, yahoo) serve > a substantial network support purpose or are they more of a distraction, > allowing staff to communicate with friends, relatives, drifters, > interlopers on company time? > I disagree. I have spent many hours in a nois

Re: How important is the PSTN

2002-06-25 Thread Jason Lewis
> Is it me or is it very quiet in here today? > > Jane All the frequent posters have been banned for 6 months. ;)

Re: How important is IM? was RE: How important is the PSTN

2002-06-25 Thread Dan Hollis
On Tue, 25 Jun 2002, Christopher J. Wolff wrote: > So my question for the group is, do chat programs (IM, IRC, yahoo) serve a > substantial network support purpose or are they more of a distraction, > allowing staff to communicate with friends, relatives, drifters, interlopers > on company time?

RE: How important is the PSTN

2002-06-25 Thread Jim Popovitch
> -Original Message- > From: Pawlukiewicz Jane > > Is it me or is it very quiet in here today? > Everybody is off tyring to get openssh 3.3 compiled and installed. :) -Jim P.

How important is IM? was RE: How important is the PSTN

2002-06-25 Thread Christopher J. Wolff
, Christopher J. Wolff, VP CIO Broadband Laboratories http://www.bblabs.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Pawlukiewicz Jane Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2002 12:06 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: How important is the PSTN Hi all, Thanks so much for

How important is the PSTN

2002-06-25 Thread Pawlukiewicz Jane
Hi all, Thanks so much for all the great answers. (Could everyone please stop telling me that im = instant messaging). I knew I should've never gotten out of bed this morning. Anyway, 75% of the respondents said the phone is critical. 25% said some form of IM is critical. Just in case anyone w