Re: ISP compliance < LEAs - tech and logistics [was: snfc21 sniffer docs]

2006-05-24 Thread Martin Hannigan
At 04:58 AM 5/24/2006, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >The NANOG meeting archives are full of presentations as the result > >of very sophisticated network monitoring. Like most technology, > >it can be used for good and evil. You can't tell the motivation > >just from the technology. OK, so he s

Re: ISP compliance < LEAs - tech and logistics [was: snfc21 sniffer docs]

2006-05-24 Thread Peter Dambier
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The NANOG meeting archives are full of presentations as the result of very sophisticated network monitoring. Like most technology, it can be used for good and evil. You can't tell the motivation just from the technology. OK, so he says in a roundabout way that you a

Re: ISP compliance < LEAs - tech and logistics [was: snfc21 sniffer docs]

2006-05-24 Thread Michael . Dillon
> >The NANOG meeting archives are full of presentations as the result > >of very sophisticated network monitoring. Like most technology, > >it can be used for good and evil. You can't tell the motivation > >just from the technology. OK, so he says in a roundabout way that you are already paying

Re: ISP compliance < LEAs - tech and logistics [was: snfc21 sniffer docs]

2006-05-23 Thread Martin Hannigan
At 09:48 PM 5/23/2006, Sean Donelan wrote: On Tue, 23 May 2006, Steven M. Bellovin wrote: > > Indeed. To be honest, I am more interested in NANOG-related operational > > issues involved, which I am not sure many here will be able to discuss in > > case they had experience on the subject. So let

Re: ISP compliance < LEAs - tech and logistics [was: snfc21 sniffer docs]

2006-05-23 Thread Sean Donelan
On Tue, 23 May 2006, Steven M. Bellovin wrote: > > Indeed. To be honest, I am more interested in NANOG-related operational > > issues involved, which I am not sure many here will be able to discuss in > > case they had experience on the subject. So let us put privacy and legal > > issues aside for

Re: ISP compliance < LEAs - tech and logistics [was: snfc21 sniffer docs]

2006-05-23 Thread Steven M. Bellovin
On Tue, 23 May 2006 05:39:26 -0500 (CDT), Gadi Evron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Wired posted what are suppossedly the docs Mark Klein wrote 'bout the > > NSA sniffing project. Interesting read... > > > > http://blog.wired.com/27BStroke6/att_klein_wired.pdf > > > > John > > Indeed. To b

Re: ISP compliance < LEAs - tech and logistics [was: snfc21 sniffer docs]

2006-05-23 Thread James J. Lippard
On Tue, May 23, 2006 at 05:39:26AM -0500, Gadi Evron wrote: > > > Wired posted what are suppossedly the docs Mark Klein wrote 'bout the > > NSA sniffing project. Interesting read... > > > > http://blog.wired.com/27BStroke6/att_klein_wired.pdf > > > > John > > Indeed. To be honest, I am more i

ISP compliance < LEAs - tech and logistics [was: snfc21 sniffer docs]

2006-05-23 Thread Gadi Evron
> Wired posted what are suppossedly the docs Mark Klein wrote 'bout the > NSA sniffing project. Interesting read... > > http://blog.wired.com/27BStroke6/att_klein_wired.pdf > > John Indeed. To be honest, I am more interested in NANOG-related operational issues involved, which I am not sure man