Title: Re: AOL fixing Microsoft default settings
I’m not sure “outrage” is the appropriate way to describe this. AOL is probably looking at this from the support point of view.
They get a certain number of support calls complaining about messenger service spam/trickery. The will get many
I agree that changing one's computer is not the ISP or even the Corp IT departments
job, and could compromise valuable work and or personal information for the individual
user, depending on their setup, security software etc and other applications.
I also would preceive that as a real threat to i
On Tue, 28 Oct 2003, Fred Baker wrote:
> Personally, I don't ask my ISP or my IT department to randomly change the
> configuration of my computer. I am very happy for them to suggest changes,
> but *if* I agree, *I* want to install them when it is convenient for *me*,
> not when it is convenient f
At 11:13 AM 10/23/2003, Sean Donelan wrote:
How many other ISPs intend to follow AOL's practice and use their
connection support software to fix the defaults on their customer's
Windows computers?
Interesting question from several angles. Here's the flip side. Our
corporate IT department likes t
On Fri, 24 Oct 2003, Sean Donelan wrote:
>b. Disable file/printer sharing
That roots MSDE, and it's not an even vaguely obvious connection between the
two. That's one of the problems with fiddling with Windows - screwing with
one thing often breaks something apparently totally unrelated.
On Fri, 24 Oct 2003, Sean Donelan wrote:
> Microsoft has asked ISPs to make changes on its behalf, such as enabling
> the XP firewall. But is it wise for an ISP to change the settings on
> a user's computer? If Microsoft is reluctant to make the changes itself,
> what problems is the ISP crea
I believe this has resulted in a few lawsuits from companies such as Gator,
which take offense to their "adware" being removed by the ISP... Of
course, 99% of the time it's installed via a "click-wrap" EULA for some 3rd
party software such as Kazaa. It would be just as easy to uninstall it via
On Fri, 24 Oct 2003, Stewart, William C (Bill), RTSLS wrote:
> Most ISPs don't provide users with a heavy-duty client that
> replaces or patches lots of the operating system's functions,
> though may will offer friendly customized browsers for
> users who want them, and a few misguided carriers wi
Most ISPs don't provide users with a heavy-duty client that
replaces or patches lots of the operating system's functions,
though may will offer friendly customized browsers for
users who want them, and a few misguided carriers will
provide drivers for PPPoE or other evil excuses for protocols (:-
- Original Message -
From: "Chris Brenton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Friday, October 24, 2003 8:31 AM
Subject: Re: AOL fixing Microsoft default settings
>
> Is this "mechanism" an SSL connection? HTTP in the clear? AIM
On Fri, 2003-10-24 at 00:22, Jared Mauch wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 24, 2003 at 12:13:59AM -0400, Sean Donelan wrote:
> > http://www.securityfocus.com/news/7278
> >
> > How many other ISPs intend to follow AOL's practice and use their
> > connection support software to fix the defaults on their custome
> -Original Message-
> How many other ISPs intend to follow AOL's practice and use their
> connection support software to fix the defaults on their customer's
> Windows computers?
I've already seen an interesting side effect from a disabled messenger
service... With one of those
On Fri, 24 Oct 2003, Terry Baranski wrote:
:The "without notice" part is perhaps somewhat unsettling. I can
:appreciate that attempting to explain this type of change to the AOL
:user base would be challenging, but I'd submit that third-party software
:making OS changes like this without the use
How many other ISPs intend to follow AOL's practice and use their
connection support software to fix the defaults on their customer's
Windows computers?
Thankfully our focus is hosting & Colo, not access, so our pool is
smaller and (theoretically) smarter. However this hasn't stopped us
from doi
> > How many other ISPs intend to follow AOL's practice and use their
> > connection support software to fix the defaults on their customer's
> > Windows computers?
>
> Sounds good to me. The potential for these users
> to be less-than-educated enough about the existance of
> this "feature
On Fri, 24 Oct 2003, Sean Donelan wrote:
>
>
> Without notice AOL has been modifying the operating system settings of
> users with AOL software installed on Windows computers. Although
> complaints about Windows' Messenger pop-up spam continue to grow, few
This is a nice thing, but I recall so
I fully approve, so long as there's a documented, opt-me-out process for
those that may need that sort of thingbut I think the majority is
pretty well served by this sort of thing. Unlike say changes proposed by
some companies.
I just don't know how far to draw the line, and it needs to be
On Fri, Oct 24, 2003 at 12:13:59AM -0400, Sean Donelan wrote:
> http://www.securityfocus.com/news/7278
>
> How many other ISPs intend to follow AOL's practice and use their
> connection support software to fix the defaults on their customer's
> Windows computers?
Sounds good to me. The
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