On Thu, 25 Jul 2002, Richard A Steenbergen wrote:
> I can't imagine they would actually follow through with this though, all
> it takes is one incident where they cause financial harm to someone with
> an mp3 they misidentify and their highground is gone. Then again, I can't
> imagine congress be
On Thu, Jul 25, 2002 at 02:37:15PM -0700, Rowland, Alan D wrote:
>
> I fully agree this is Not Good (TM), hence the BAD in my response. Having
> said that, satellite providers periodically 'kill' hacked access cards on
> equipment in the user's home with no legal ramifications. How would this b
> I had significant input in my life regarding the difference between "can"
> and "may." IMHO significant numbers of net citizens have forgotten that
> difference.
therefore all of us need to give up our civil rights?
the terrorists have won.
randy
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To: Rowland, Alan D
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Subject: Re: Draft of Rep. Berman's bill authorizes anti-P2P hacking
On Thu, 25 Jul 2002 13:11:00 PDT, "Rowland, Alan D"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> IANAL but IMHO spewing cracked copies of say, Photoshop, or other
> co
On Thu, 25 Jul 2002 13:11:00 PDT, "Rowland, Alan D" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> IANAL but IMHO spewing cracked copies of say, Photoshop, or other copyright
> violations might be considered probable cause with the specific place/things
> being the share program and it's contents.
If your house w
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Alan Rowland
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I would argue that my home computer is the repos
I would argue that my home computer is the repository of my papers
and effects. No place in the below law does it limit the restriction
to the government only. Indeed any law passed giving sanction to any
party having the right IMHO is in direct violation of both the spiret
and the letter of the
On Thu, 25 Jul 2002 10:48:36 EDT, Petr Swedock said:
> The courts. There is no possible way that this bill (as I
> read it) could, in any way, be conceived as even remotely
> constitutional. This is pure vigilante: the entertainment
The fact that a law is unconstitutional on the face of it has
Marshall Eubanks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Thought this would be considered on-topic as guess who would have
> to clean up the resulting messes...
The courts. There is no possible way that this bill (as I
read it) could, in any way, be conceived as even remotely
constitutional. This is pu
> The Business Software Alliance appears to be using this technique to flush
> out people distributing their Members' software via Gnutella and others. I
> have received the obligatory nasty-gram advising me as the "owner" of an IP
> (not taking into account the IP has been allocated and then as
The upside to this is that if you are a hacker, you can now
legitimize your activities and legally protect yourself by
spending $30 to incorporate as a record company.
On Wed, 24 Jul 2002, Marshall Eubanks wrote:
> Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2002 12:40:51 -0400
> From: Marshall Eubanks <[EMAIL PROTECTED
The BSA is even flexing it's muscles here in the GWN.
http://www.istop.com/BSALetter.txt
Although they seem to have lots of money for scanning services and
lawyers, they expect ISPs to provide services (assisting them enforce
their copyrights) for free.
Ralph Doncaster
principal, IStop.com
if
>it comes down to the stability of my network vs. receiving their
>traffic.
>
>Derek
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On 7/24/02 11:31 AM, "Adam Rothschild" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> On 2002-07-24-14:10:00, James Thomason <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> If this legislation is passed, they certainly will earn Null0 on
>> mine.
>
> Unless, of course, the RIAA, MPAA, and friends carry out their
> cracking thr
On 2002-07-24-14:10:00, James Thomason <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> If this legislation is passed, they certainly will earn Null0 on
> mine.
Unless, of course, the RIAA, MPAA, and friends carry out their
cracking through throw-away dial and DSL accounts, like they
purportedly use now to troll fo
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> James Thomason
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>
> Would malicious actions on the part of copyright h
comes down to the stability of my network vs. receiving their
traffic.
Derek
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Would malicious actions on the part of copyright holders violate the
AUP of most networks? Or are service providers more willing to tolerate
denial of service attacks by large corporations than say, spam?
If this legislation is passed, they certainly will earn Null0 on mine.
Regards,
James T
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