i'd asked:
> > Anybody had notable (good or bad) billing and/or customer service
> > experiences with Voicestream or any other GSM provider with native
> > coverage in the San Francisco Bay Area?
many people said:
> I think Voicestream and T-Mobile are the same company now. If you've
> had pr
vijay,
vg> Lets see Malayasia
vg> Indonesia
Over the last few months, I have had no problems using my Cingular GSM
Treo calling the US from Malaysia, Indonesia and China. Haven' tried
calling to other countries, though. (And this is probably the only
positive thing I can find to say about Cin
Paul Vixie wrote:
besides which, i hated the phone. i couldn't get it out of my
pocket without hitting the voice-call button. the asynchronous
nature of the java-based UI meant that the softkeys often changed
what they meant while i was trying to press one. what a total
piece of garbage.
Yep, al
AT&T spun off AT&T Wireless a couple of years ago, and the spinoff is
renting the brand name and the Death Star logo, and probably buys a
bunch of network and telco service from AT&T but is otherwise
unconnected. As a stockholder of the spinoff company, I'm
disappointed though not surprised that
> besides which, i hated the phone. i couldn't get it out of my
> pocket without hitting the voice-call button. the asynchronous
> nature of the java-based UI meant that the softkeys often changed
> what they meant while i was trying to press one. what a total
> piece of garbage.
So what mod
> You can get most of these phones unlocked from the sim lock
> and then flog it on ebay - goes to the time
> and effort costs of the aggrevation of dealing with mobile
> operators.
i plan to send the shattered remains of that phone back to AT&T
in case they think that my small claims suit is a
> t-mobile usa has significant holes in thier roaming agreements as far as
> I'm concerned...
Here in Austin, 3 years ago voicestream sold most of their GSM towers to
ATT, and then sold their out-of-luck customers to tmoble.
tmoble still drops every call on IH-35 by Capitol Plaza Mall.
-bryan b
On Thu, 2 Sep 2004, Fred Baker wrote:
At 06:04 PM 09/02/04 -0700, Joe Rhett wrote:
> Also note due to fraud mitigation, most phones only allow you to call
> within the country you are in or back to the home country, all the while
> charging you an exhorbitant price.
Um, sorry but I've never seen th
You can get most of these phones unlocked from the sim lock
and then flog it on ebay - goes to the time
and effort costs of the aggrevation of dealing with mobile
operators.
Regards,
Neil.
>
> Now that AT&T has followed T-Mobile's example by screwing the
> pooch on my cell phone billing, and
On Fri, 3 Sep 2004 08:31:36 +0200, Iljitsch van Beijnum wrote:
>Just wondering: what do you guys pay per minute when roaming on GSM
>networks abroad? For me it's around 1 euro ($1 excluding sales tax) to
>call within the country itself or back home and about half that for
>receiving calls in mo
On Thu, Sep 02, 2004 at 07:48:00PM -0700, Joe Rhett wrote:
> vijay gill wrote:
>
> Sorry, again YMMV but I had no trouble with this in either Taiwan or
> Singapore, when I was responsible for support in those countries, Japan and
> Korea combined. I never saw a problem calling between any of th
On 3-sep-04, at 3:04, Joe Rhett wrote:
Anyway, I spent nearly a month in
Spain this spring and my cell phone was my only contact, for both
voice and
many long hours of GPRS internet access, and the bill was only $890 or
something similar.
Just wondering: what do you guys pay per minute when roamin
I like T-Mobile here in Portland, Oregon. Got a Sidekick/Hiptop.
It does web, email, phone, notes, AIM (who cares), calendar,
and the new one out later this month will have a built-in camera.
The little keypad is nicer than the Blackberry.
It was an extra $10 for the Terminal app, which runs ssh
vijay gill wrote:
> > > Also note due to fraud mitigation, most phones only allow you to call
> > > within the country you are in or back to the home country, all the while
> > > charging you an exhorbitant price.
> > At 06:04 PM 09/02/04 -0700, Joe Rhett wrote:
> > Um, sorry but I've never seen
> voicestream is tmobile everywhere
i forgot to mention that there is a bit of a boom-giggle
in there. t-mumble paid about $3,400 per customer to buy
voicescream.
randy
voicestream is tmobile everywhere
On Thu, 2004-09-02 at 16:14, Dan Mahoney, System Admin wrote:
> On Thu, 2 Sep 2004, Paul Vixie wrote:
>
> >
> > Now that AT&T has followed T-Mobile's example by screwing the pooch on my
> > cell phone billing, and I've flung yet another SIM-locked Motorola V600
On Thu, Sep 02, 2004 at 06:23:31PM -0700, Fred Baker wrote:
>
> At 06:04 PM 09/02/04 -0700, Joe Rhett wrote:
> >> Also note due to fraud mitigation, most phones only allow you to call
> >> within the country you are in or back to the home country, all the while
> >> charging you an exhorbitant pr
At 06:04 PM 09/02/04 -0700, Joe Rhett wrote:
> Also note due to fraud mitigation, most phones only allow you to call
> within the country you are in or back to the home country, all the while
> charging you an exhorbitant price.
Um, sorry but I've never seen this. I used to world-roam on AT&T, and
On 02 Sep 2004 22:29:27 +, Paul Vixie wrote:
>Now that AT&T has followed T-Mobile's example by screwing the pooch on my
>cell phone billing, and I've flung yet another SIM-locked Motorola V600
>out the window of yet another moving vehicle, and am about to enter into
>another year long "you vio
Way off topic, hit delete now.
On Thu, Sep 02, 2004 at 11:09:27PM +, vijay gill wrote:
> Triband phones mostly operate on 900/1800/1900 frequencies. There is a
> major US deployment of GSM on the "cellular" GSM 850 band. So if you are
> with a triband phone on anyone other than Tmobile (which
On Thu, Sep 02, 2004 at 04:54:48PM -0700, william(at)elan.net wrote:
> In my opinion GSM is really overrated and not seriously well deployed in US,
> consider CDMA providers, at least internet access would be faster
> (and typically cheaper) if you're using smartphone.
That used to be true, bu
On 2 Sep 2004, Paul Vixie wrote:
> Now that AT&T has followed T-Mobile's example by screwing the pooch on my
> cell phone billing, and I've flung yet another SIM-locked Motorola V600
> out the window of yet another moving vehicle, and am about to enter into
> another year long "you violated the
On Thu, 2 Sep 2004, Paul Vixie wrote:
Now that AT&T has followed T-Mobile's example by screwing the pooch on my
cell phone billing, and I've flung yet another SIM-locked Motorola V600
out the window of yet another moving vehicle, and am about to enter into
another year long "you violated the agreem
On Fri, Sep 03, 2004 at 10:47:43AM +1200, Randy Bush wrote:
> strongly recommended. or, as here in fiji, one can get a phone
> unlocked for a few bucks (couple of guys on a bench in a street
> stall).
Triband phones mostly operate on 900/1800/1900 frequencies. There is a
major US deployment of
> I've flung yet another SIM-locked Motorola V600 out the window of yet
> another moving vehicle
littering
> am about to enter into another year long "you violated the agreement
> first" small claims battle
i guess we value our time differently
> I'm going to buy an unlocked tri-band GSM t
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