Re: Welcome back, Ma Bell

2006-03-06 Thread joshua sahala
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On (06/03/06 09:45), Berkman, Scott wrote: > > The best things I see coming out of the merger will be the drive > for improvement and innovation. having recently lived in a BS-service area I can say that there is no improvement or innovation c

RE: Welcome back, Ma Bell

2006-03-06 Thread Berkman, Scott
Going down to three companies controlling all of the last mile copper doesn't change very much. Regardless of who owns it, there has always been only been one company to get local loop/last mile from. SBC and BellSouth (or BS as I like to call it) have never been in any direct competitio

Re: Welcome back, Ma Bell

2006-03-06 Thread Eric A. Hall
On 3/6/2006 7:17 AM, Omachonu O. Ogali wrote: > Section 271 of "The Act" prevented RBOCs from selling long distance > unless if they truly opened their networks to competitive access by > CLECs (UNE-Ps primarily Right, LD was the carrot in the MFJ > Then, AT&T and Sprint exit the long dist

Re: Welcome back, Ma Bell

2006-03-06 Thread Stephen Sprunk
Thus spake "Justin M. Streiner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> On Mon, 6 Mar 2006, Christian Kuhtz wrote: That being said, the 'new ATT' with all those assets will need to be integrated, and work efficiently. Turf battles will ensue. Tens of Integration, going on past experience, is highly unlikely.

Re: Welcome back, Ma Bell

2006-03-06 Thread Justin M. Streiner
On Mon, 6 Mar 2006, Christian Kuhtz wrote: That being said, the 'new ATT' with all those assets will need to be integrated, and work efficiently. Turf battles will ensue. Tens of Integration, going on past experience, is highly unlikely. The last time I had any interaction with Worldcom r

Re: Welcome back, Ma Bell

2006-03-06 Thread Christian Kuhtz
On Mar 5, 2006, at 8:05 PM, Eric A. Hall wrote: On 3/5/2006 7:10 PM, Steve Sobol wrote: Eric A. Hall wrote: What are people worried about here exactly? The same lack of competition in telecommunications that we had in the 1980s? Well that's an overreach. And if the primary concern i

Re: Welcome back, Ma Bell

2006-03-05 Thread Eric A. Hall
Nice rant. But since this isn't your blog you'll probably have to grace us with some substance. None of AT&T exists anymore--SBC acquired that corpse last year, so the company currently calling itself "AT&T" isn't even really "AT&T". The new deal is basically SBC buying up BellSouth and getting

Re: Welcome back, Ma Bell

2006-03-05 Thread Patrick W. Gilmore
On Mar 6, 2006, at 3:24 AM, Fergie wrote: An overreach? Really? I'd say that you're not paying attention. Sorry, Fergie, but I gotta disagree with you here. In the 1980s, cell phones were not even close to useable by most people, but now there are lots of people who don't need anything

Re: Welcome back, Ma Bell

2006-03-05 Thread Fergie
An overreach? Really? I'd say that you're not paying attention. And how do you come to that conclusion? By the fact that "very little" of the original AT&T is in the current monolith? Well, given the entire 'two-tiered' money-grab-tastic issues involved, I'd say you're a little out of touch. -

Re: Welcome back, Ma Bell

2006-03-05 Thread Eric A. Hall
On 3/5/2006 7:10 PM, Steve Sobol wrote: > Eric A. Hall wrote: > >>What are people worried about here exactly? > > The same lack of competition in telecommunications that we had in the 1980s? Well that's an overreach. And if the primary concern is consolidation then we should have blocked NYNEX

Re: Welcome back, Ma Bell

2006-03-05 Thread Rubens Kuhl Jr.
> > What are people worried about here exactly? > > The same lack of competition in telecommunications that we had in the 1980s? > > Granted, it won't ever be quite *that* bad again, but we're slowly moving > back towards one monolithic ILEC, and that does worry me. To worry most is the fact that

Re: Welcome back, Ma Bell

2006-03-05 Thread Steve Sobol
Eric A. Hall wrote: > What are people worried about here exactly? The same lack of competition in telecommunications that we had in the 1980s? Granted, it won't ever be quite *that* bad again, but we're slowly moving back towards one monolithic ILEC, and that does worry me. -- Steve Sobol, Pr

RE: Welcome back, Ma Bell

2006-03-05 Thread Fergie
You know what they say about opinions... Well, anyways, the main thrust of the concern here is not a technical one -- unless you consider the lack of susbcriber options technical. It is, perhaps, a technicality, but I digress... I guess we'll just have to wait and see how this all plays out. No

RE: Welcome back, Ma Bell

2006-03-05 Thread Edward W. Ray
With Katrina and all the other hurricanes hitting Bell south's area, they are just overwhelmed. The prize here is Cingular anyway; the landline business is declining. Since neither SBC nor Bell South have too much interest in FiOS, the harm the consumers near term is minimal. In fact, some of t

RE: Welcome back, Ma Bell

2006-03-05 Thread Edward W. Ray
With Katrina and all the other hurricanes hitting Bell south's area, they are just overwhelmed. The prize here is Cingular anyway; the landline business is declining. Since neither SBC nor Bell South have too much interest in FiOS, the harm the consumers near term is minimal. In fact, some of

Re: Welcome back, Ma Bell

2006-03-05 Thread Eric A. Hall
On 3/5/2006 9:18 AM, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote: > I somehow wonder if the old executives at Ma Bell had already worked > out a timeline for resurrecting her well before she was split up .. That would include divestiture of residential LD, equipment sales, bell labs, etc? Really, there's just

Re: Welcome back, Ma Bell

2006-03-05 Thread Brian Wallingford
Not that mind-boggling. The FCC under the Bush administration has been a joke from the get-go. (This coming from a very right-leaning independent). This is the ultimate shell game, considering ATT's antics last year. cheers, brian On Sun, 5 Mar 2006, Fergie wrote: : :Reuters and CNN/Money al

Re: Welcome back, Ma Bell

2006-03-05 Thread Fergie
Reuters and CNN/Money also reporting same: http://money.cnn.com/2006/03/05/news/companies/att_bellsouth/index.htm Mind-boggling. - ferg -- "Suresh Ramasubramanian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: This is from Dave Farber's list .. > Subject: Everything old is new again > From: Kevin G. Barkes