Re: Researchers ping through first full 'Internet census' in 25 years

2007-10-15 Thread Tim Franklin
On Fri, October 12, 2007 10:08 pm, Mark Foster wrote: > Its all very well for those that know better to carry on like this, but I > would suggest that those sortsa complaints only come from people who > don't know better. They don't know how to interpret their Firewall > warnings. And they don

Re: Researchers ping through first full 'Internet census' in 25 years

2007-10-12 Thread Martin Hannigan
On 10/12/07, Steve Atkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Oct 12, 2007, at 5:08 PM, Mark Foster wrote: > > > > > > (If some random dynamic IP host on the other side of the world > > started hitting my firewall for no apparent reason, i'd be raising > > my eyebrows too. Of course, these days,

Re: Researchers ping through first full 'Internet census' in 25 years

2007-10-12 Thread Steve Atkins
On Oct 12, 2007, at 5:08 PM, Mark Foster wrote: (If some random dynamic IP host on the other side of the world started hitting my firewall for no apparent reason, i'd be raising my eyebrows too. Of course, these days, I have a much better idea of what is genuinely threatening and what

Re: Researchers ping through first full 'Internet census' in 25 years

2007-10-12 Thread Mark Foster
On Fri, 12 Oct 2007, Tim Franklin wrote: On Fri, October 12, 2007 2:49 pm, Justin M. Streiner wrote: "HOST x.x.x.x ON YOUR NETWORK PINGED ME I TAKE MY SECURITY SERIOUSLY!! I'M CALLING THE FBI!!!" That I can *sort* of understand - it's the flaming zealotry of "ALL ICMP IS EEEVIL!" t

Re: Researchers ping through first full 'Internet census' in 25 years

2007-10-12 Thread Deepak Jain
Ok. To make my own contribution to this thread hijack somewhat operational... How many people have had to add to their NOC/Abuse desk SOP: "When someone calls threatening that they are the FBI/CIA/NSA/Your grandmother returned from the dead... but essentially, "Don't Panic. And they are b

Re: Researchers ping through first full 'Internet census' in 25 years

2007-10-12 Thread Gadi Evron
On Fri, 12 Oct 2007, Leigh Porter wrote: You are more likely to get 5000 zonealarm emails Or a place on dshield's top 10. Justin M. Streiner wrote: On Fri, 12 Oct 2007, Chris Owen wrote: You can't consider every wacko on the net when doing something like this. Anyone who consider

Re: Researchers ping through first full 'Internet census' in 25 years

2007-10-12 Thread Tim Franklin
On Fri, October 12, 2007 2:49 pm, Justin M. Streiner wrote: > "HOST x.x.x.x ON YOUR NETWORK PINGED ME I TAKE MY SECURITY > SERIOUSLY!! I'M CALLING THE FBI!!!" That I can *sort* of understand - it's the flaming zealotry of "ALL ICMP IS EEEVIL!" trickling down from 99% of firewall admins wor

Re: Researchers ping through first full 'Internet census' in 25 years

2007-10-12 Thread Justin M. Streiner
On Fri, 12 Oct 2007, Leigh Porter wrote: You are more likely to get 5000 zonealarm emails Got tons of those... ...and BlackIce, DShield, Norton, SamSpade, and all the rest :) But there were also lots of people who took time out of their busy day to personally write their own flaming ema

Re: Researchers ping through first full 'Internet census' in 25 years

2007-10-12 Thread Leigh Porter
You are more likely to get 5000 zonealarm emails Justin M. Streiner wrote: > > On Fri, 12 Oct 2007, Chris Owen wrote: > >> You can't consider every wacko on the net when doing something like >> this. Anyone who considers a ping an attack probably isn't worth >> worrying about. > > I tend to

Re: Researchers ping through first full 'Internet census' in 25 years

2007-10-12 Thread Justin M. Streiner
On Fri, 12 Oct 2007, Chris Owen wrote: You can't consider every wacko on the net when doing something like this. Anyone who considers a ping an attack probably isn't worth worrying about. I tend to agree, but back when I manned the abuse desk (among others) at my former employer, I would see

Re: Researchers ping through first full 'Internet census' in 25 years

2007-10-12 Thread Chris Owen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Oct 12, 2007, at 12:50 AM, Roy wrote: I guess no one told them that someone might consider this an attack? You can't consider every wacko on the net when doing something like this. Anyone who considers a ping an attack probably isn't worth

Re: Researchers ping through first full 'Internet census' in 25 years

2007-10-12 Thread Leigh Porter
27MB? I duno, that's quite a lot.. I'll have to delete some mp3s first.. Duane Wessels wrote: > > > ISI folks have been taking this census since at least mid 2003. > > We vizualized their data using our tool and then made a movie showing > the changes from 2003 to late 2006. If you have 27 MB a

Re: Researchers ping through first full 'Internet census' in 25 years

2007-10-12 Thread Duane Wessels
ISI folks have been taking this census since at least mid 2003. We vizualized their data using our tool and then made a movie showing the changes from 2003 to late 2006. If you have 27 MB and a few minutes to spare you can download it from here: http://maps.measurement-factory.com/gallery/USC-

Re: Researchers ping through first full 'Internet census' in 25 years

2007-10-12 Thread Hank Nussbacher
lacklisted for a day or two. Researchers ping through first full 'Internet census' in 25 years No door-to-door canvassing here: This census involved the direction of some 3 billion pings toward 2.8 billion allocated Internet addresses from three machines ov

Re: Researchers ping through first full 'Internet census' in 25 years

2007-10-11 Thread Paul Ferguson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 - -- Randy Bush <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> http://www.networkworld.com/community/node/20390?netht=101107dailynews2 >>> &&nladname=101107dailynews >> Credit where credit is due: >> http://www.xkcd.com/195/ > >i guess you did not read the articl

Re: Researchers ping through first full 'Internet census' in 25 years

2007-10-11 Thread Randy Bush
>> http://www.networkworld.com/community/node/20390?netht=101107dailynews2&&nladname=101107dailynews >> > Credit where credit is due: > http://www.xkcd.com/195/ i guess you did not read the article, eh? randy

Re: Researchers ping through first full 'Internet census' in 25 years

2007-10-11 Thread Paul Ferguson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 - -- Roy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >http://www.networkworld.com/community/node/20390?netht=101107dailynews2&&n >ladname=101107dailynews Credit where credit is due: http://www.xkcd.com/195/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP Desktop 9.6

Researchers ping through first full 'Internet census' in 25 years

2007-10-11 Thread Roy
I guess no one told them that someone might consider this an attack? I have set up detectors where pinging consecutive "honeypot" ip addresses results in the source IP address being blacklisted for a day or two. Researchers ping through first full '