Re: San Francisco Power Outage

2007-07-26 Thread Ben Scott
On 7/25/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: ... fire department evacuating the data center, cutting off electricity in the area, and forbidding the diesel generators to be switched on? I know a guy who was at the US Data Centers Inc facility in Marlborough, MA (before USDCI faile

Re: San Francisco Power Outage

2007-07-25 Thread Paul Vixie
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jeff Aitken) writes: > ..., we had a failure at another datacenter that uses Piller units, which > operate on the same basic principle as the Hitec ones. ... i guess i never understood why anyone would install a piller that far from the equator. (it spins like a top, on a ve

Re: San Francisco Power Outage

2007-07-25 Thread Paul Vixie
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ("Jonathan Lassoff") writes: > Well, the fact still remains that operating a datacenter smack-dab in > the center of some of the most inflated real estate in recent history > is quite a castly endeavor. yes. (speaking for both 365 main, and 529 bryant.) > I really wouldn't be

Re: San Francisco Power Outage

2007-07-25 Thread George William Herbert
Michael Dillon writes: >> And the stories that the power guy I'm working with tells >> about foreign facilities, particularly in middle east war >> zones, are really scary... > >> We fundamentally do not have the facilities problem >> completely nailed down to the point that things will never

Re: San Francisco Power Outage

2007-07-25 Thread Jeff Aitken
On Tue, Jul 24, 2007 at 09:57:09PM -0500, Brandon Galbraith wrote: > It appears that 365 is using the Hytec Continuous Power System [ > http://hitec.pageprocessor.nl/p3.php?RubriekID=2016], which is a motor, > generator, flywheel, clutch, and Diesel engine all on the same shaft. They > don't use b

Re: San Francisco Power Outage

2007-07-25 Thread David Lesher
Speaking on Deep Background, the Press Secretary whispered: > Level 4 datacenters can, and will, fail. Nothing you can > do including just doing 48V DC for everything are truly > foolproof solutions. Hard to find anyone who takes the -48vdc mantra to heart more than an RBOC. Ditto on lightni

Re: San Francisco Power Outage

2007-07-25 Thread Stephen Wilcox
On Tue, Jul 24, 2007 at 11:57:37PM +, Paul Vixie wrote: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Seth Mattinen) writes: > > > I have a question: does anyone seriously accept "oh, power trouble" as a > > reason your servers went offline? Where's the generators? UPS? Testing > > said combination of UPS and ge

RE: San Francisco Power Outage

2007-07-25 Thread michael.dillon
> And the stories that the power guy I'm working with tells > about foreign facilities, particularly in middle east war > zones, are really scary... > We fundamentally do not have the facilities problem > completely nailed down to the point that things will never > drop. Level 4 > datacente

Re: San Francisco Power Outage

2007-07-25 Thread Michael Painter
From: "Justin M. Streiner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2007 5:58 PM Subject: Re: San Francisco Power Outage Nothing quite like the sound of a whole machine room spinning down at the same time. It gives you that lovely "oh shit" feeling in the pit of

Re: San Francisco Power Outage

2007-07-24 Thread Justin M. Streiner
On Tue, 24 Jul 2007, Tuc at T-B-O-H.NET wrote: (I remember two guys with VERY LONG screwdrivers poking a live transfer switch to get it to reset properly, and was told to step back 20 feet as thats how far they expected to get thrown if they did something wrong). (I also remember them resetting

Re: San Francisco Power Outage

2007-07-24 Thread Tuc at T-B-O-H.NET
ge- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > Adrian Chadd > Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2007 7:54 PM > To: Seth Mattinen > Cc: nanog list > Subject: Re: San Francisco Power Outage > > > On Tue, Jul 24, 2007, Seth Mattinen wrote: > > > I

Fw: Re: San Francisco Power Outage

2007-07-24 Thread Fred Heutte
Yelp -- lost power. -- mail forwarded, original message follows -- To: nanog@merit.edu From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: San Francisco Power Outage Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2007 15:54:08 -0700 Jonathan Lassoff wrote: > > Just a heads up to anyone on list that PG&E has just sustained

Re: San Francisco Power Outage

2007-07-24 Thread John Kinsella
p their customers > servers online with UPS. > > -Ray > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > Adrian Chadd > Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2007 7:54 PM > To: Seth Mattinen > Cc: nanog list > Subject: Re: San Franc

Re: San Francisco Power Outage

2007-07-24 Thread George William Herbert
Seth wrote: >Jonathan Lassoff wrote: >> >> Just a heads up to anyone on list that PG&E has just sustained a large >> outage in San Francisco that has caused a few hiccups (both network, >> electrical, infrastructural, etc.) around the city. >> >> I've confirmed that both customers in 365 Main a

RE: San Francisco Power Outage

2007-07-24 Thread Raymond L. Corbin
7:54 PM To: Seth Mattinen Cc: nanog list Subject: Re: San Francisco Power Outage On Tue, Jul 24, 2007, Seth Mattinen wrote: > I have a question: does anyone seriously accept "oh, power trouble" as a > reason your servers went offline? Where's the generators? UPS? Testing

Re: San Francisco Power Outage

2007-07-24 Thread Paul Vixie
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Seth Mattinen) writes: > I have a question: does anyone seriously accept "oh, power trouble" as a > reason your servers went offline? Where's the generators? UPS? Testing > said combination of UPS and generators? What if it was important? I > honestly find it hard to believe

Re: San Francisco Power Outage

2007-07-24 Thread Brandon Galbraith
On 7/24/07, Seth Mattinen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I have a question: does anyone seriously accept "oh, power trouble" as a reason your servers went offline? Where's the generators? UPS? Testing said combination of UPS and generators? What if it was important? I honestly find it hard to belie

Re: San Francisco Power Outage

2007-07-24 Thread Adrian Chadd
On Tue, Jul 24, 2007, Seth Mattinen wrote: > I have a question: does anyone seriously accept "oh, power trouble" as a > reason your servers went offline? Where's the generators? UPS? Testing > said combination of UPS and generators? What if it was important? I > honestly find it hard to believ

Re: San Francisco Power Outage

2007-07-24 Thread Seth Mattinen
Jonathan Lassoff wrote: Just a heads up to anyone on list that PG&E has just sustained a large outage in San Francisco that has caused a few hiccups (both network, electrical, infrastructural, etc.) around the city. I've confirmed that both customers in 365 Main and parts of telecom 1 have bot

San Francisco Power Outage

2007-07-24 Thread Jonathan Lassoff
Just a heads up to anyone on list that PG&E has just sustained a large outage in San Francisco that has caused a few hiccups (both network, electrical, infrastructural, etc.) around the city. I've confirmed that both customers in 365 Main and parts of telecom 1 have both sustained brief blackout