Re: Using Mobile Phone email addys for monitoring

2007-09-11 Thread Henning Brauer
* matthew zeier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007-09-06 23:39]: > >It's more effective to spend the money on SMS messages. Mobile > >providers are forced to use very aggressive anti spam measures, which > >can add significant delays in message delivery. > Recommendations on software and modems? the UMTS

Re: Using Mobile Phone email addys for monitoring (summarization)

2007-09-07 Thread Duane Waddle
On 9/7/07, Alex Pilosov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > * Purpose-made GSM/CDMA modems > ** Software: same as above > ** Manufacturers: Intercel, Sierra 750 (PCMCIA), Falcom Samba 75 (USB) > > Does anyone have experience and/or opinion (positive or negative) with the Multi-Tech cellular modems? h

RE: Using Mobile Phone email addys for monitoring (summarization)

2007-09-07 Thread Jim Popovitch
On Fri, 2007-09-07 at 19:54 -0400, Alex Pilosov wrote: > As an experiment, I wanted to try to summarize all the answers given on > this question, hope this helps someone. > > Suggestions given: > > * modem and TAP gateway > ** TAP numbers at http://www.avtech.com/Support/TAP/index.htm > ** So

RE: Using Mobile Phone email addys for monitoring (summarization)

2007-09-07 Thread Alex Pilosov
As an experiment, I wanted to try to summarize all the answers given on this question, hope this helps someone. Suggestions given: * modem and TAP gateway ** TAP numbers at http://www.avtech.com/Support/TAP/index.htm ** Software: sendpage or qpage * Mobile phone with a serial port and AT com

Re: Using Mobile Phone email addys for monitoring

2007-09-07 Thread Jason Frisvold
On 9/6/07, Rick Kunkel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello folks, > > It seems especially prevalent when MANY things are sent at once; if, for > example, a central piece fails, and dependent pieces suddenly fail as > well. I'd probably recommend implementing some sort of parent/child system to red

Re: Using Mobile Phone email addys for monitoring

2007-09-07 Thread Stefan Bethke
Am 06.09.2007 um 23:22 schrieb matthew zeier: Ken Simpson wrote: It's more effective to spend the money on SMS messages. Mobile providers are forced to use very aggressive anti spam measures, which can add significant delays in message delivery. Recommendations on software and modems? gsmd

RE: Using Mobile Phone email addys for monitoring

2007-09-07 Thread michael.dillon
> Is SMTP to a mobile phone a fundamentally flawed way to do this? Yes. It takes too long and nobody is responsible for making sure it is fast. SMS is better, even though it can also suffer from delays, because somebody is in charge of making sure it is fast. The worst delays I witnessed were o

RE: Using Mobile Phone email addys for monitoring

2007-09-07 Thread nick.nauwelaerts
> Ken Simpson wrote: > > > It's more effective to spend the money on SMS messages. Mobile > > providers are forced to use very aggressive anti spam > measures, which > > can add significant delays in message delivery. > > Recommendations on software and modems? We've been having fun with these

Re: Using Mobile Phone email addys for monitoring

2007-09-06 Thread Kevin Blackham
I would never trust SMTP for all the reasons already mentioned. Primarily if my network is dead, I still want to get paged about it. Relying on the import policy of another organization in the hostile port 25 environment is also bad voodoo. We've used a mix of TAP and SMS for many years with var

RE: Using Mobile Phone email addys for monitoring

2007-09-06 Thread Stasiniewicz, Adam
Behalf Of Rick Kunkel Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 3:46 PM To: nanog@merit.edu Subject: Using Mobile Phone email addys for monitoring Hello folks, First off, apologies if this is off topic. I'm hoping that system and network monitoring tip are enough of a common issue that this fall

Re: Using Mobile Phone email addys for monitoring

2007-09-06 Thread Jared Mauch
On Thu, Sep 06, 2007 at 06:04:44PM -0600, Jason J. W. Williams wrote: > Hi All, > > Our experience with using the e-mail-to-SMS gateways provided by > AT&T/Cingular and T-Mobile: > > AT&T: Messages come through with very little delay (even during alert > storms). As long as you're sourc

Re: Using Mobile Phone email addys for monitoring

2007-09-06 Thread Brian Wallingford
:> Some mobile phones you can talk to via AT commandset, either :>via USB cable or something else. (eg: I have used a Nokia 6230 with usb :>cable.. you can also use bluetooth). If you pay $5 or whatnot for unlimited :>SMS on a el-cheapo plan, it might work better than using the SMTP gate

RE: Using Mobile Phone email addys for monitoring

2007-09-06 Thread Jason J. W. Williams
our. -J -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Daniel Senie Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 4:09 PM To: Jared Mauch; matthew zeier Cc: Rick Kunkel; nanog@merit.edu Subject: Re: Using Mobile Phone email addys for monitoring At 05:29 PM 9/6/2007, Jar

Re: Using Mobile Phone email addys for monitoring

2007-09-06 Thread John Osmon
On Thu, Sep 06, 2007 at 05:51:38PM -0400, Alex Pilosov wrote: [...] > Analog modem and voice line and TAP software (like sendpage or qpage) I like the TAP route with qpage. I was starting to get spam via my provider's e-mail to SMS gateway. They were kind enough to disable it, and we use TAP t

Re: Using Mobile Phone email addys for monitoring

2007-09-06 Thread Joe Greco
> Once upon a time, Duane Waddle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > > We tend to avoid the whole SMTP mess and deliver messages to mobiles and > > pagers via a modem and the provider's TAP gateway. It works quite well with > > Verizon and AT&T/Cingular, but I've no experience with T-Mobile. > > T-Mobil

Re: Using Mobile Phone email addys for monitoring

2007-09-06 Thread Brandon Butterworth
> > It's more effective to spend the money on SMS messages. Mobile > > providers are forced to use very aggressive anti spam measures, which > > can add significant delays in message delivery. > > Recommendations on software and modems? Easy enough to build, here's one I made earlier http://www

Re: Using Mobile Phone email addys for monitoring

2007-09-06 Thread Patrick Muldoon
On Sep 6, 2007, at 5:39 PM, Seth Mattinen wrote: matthew zeier wrote: > Anyone else have any issues, past or present, with this kind of thing? It takes ~ 7 minutes from the time Nagios sends an email sms to AT&T to the time it hits my phone. I'm using @mobile.mycingular.com because mmo

Re: Using Mobile Phone email addys for monitoring

2007-09-06 Thread Jim Popovitch
On Thu, 2007-09-06 at 14:12 -0700, matthew zeier wrote: > > > > Anyone else have any issues, past or present, with this kind of thing? > > > It takes ~ 7 minutes from the time Nagios sends an email sms to AT&T to > the time it hits my phone. I'm using @mobile.mycingular.com because > mmod

Re: Using Mobile Phone email addys for monitoring

2007-09-06 Thread Joe Provo
On Thu, Sep 06, 2007 at 01:46:18PM -0700, Rick Kunkel wrote: [snip] > Is SMTP to a mobile phone a fundamentally flawed way to do this? Yes - think of the dependency chain involved. Years ago, hacking hylafax (or similar DTMF sources) to dial directly to pagers was a commonplace solution. Cheer

Re: Using Mobile Phone email addys for monitoring

2007-09-06 Thread Alexander Harrowell
GSM/GPRS modems are cheap; so are SMS messages. The answer should be clear... On 9/6/07, Matthew Palmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The only > thing I spec for SMS notifications is a GSM modem physically connected to > the monitoring box. There's still points of failure, but they're a lot > f

Re: Using Mobile Phone email addys for monitoring

2007-09-06 Thread Daniel Senie
At 05:29 PM 9/6/2007, Jared Mauch wrote: On Thu, Sep 06, 2007 at 02:12:34PM -0700, matthew zeier wrote: > > > > > Anyone else have any issues, past or present, with this kind of thing? > > > It takes ~ 7 minutes from the time Nagios sends an email sms to AT&T to the > time it hits my phon

Re: Using Mobile Phone email addys for monitoring

2007-09-06 Thread Al Iverson
On 9/6/07, Todd Underwood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > as much as i hate to say it, verizon has been extremely reliable on > the smtp<->sms gateway. been using them for paging for 3 years or so > now and never had a significant (detected) failure or latency. > > if you don't like this way of doi

Re: Using Mobile Phone email addys for monitoring

2007-09-06 Thread Joe Greco
> > Anyone else have any issues, past or present, with this kind of thing? > > It takes ~ 7 minutes from the time Nagios sends an email sms to AT&T to > the time it hits my phone. I'm using @mobile.mycingular.com because > mmode.com stopped working (which results in at least two txt pages vs

Re: Using Mobile Phone email addys for monitoring

2007-09-06 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Thu, Sep 06, 2007 at 02:22:10PM -0700, matthew zeier wrote: > Ken Simpson wrote: > >It's more effective to spend the money on SMS messages. Mobile > >providers are forced to use very aggressive anti spam measures, which > >can add significant delays in message delivery. > > Recommendations on

Re: Using Mobile Phone email addys for monitoring

2007-09-06 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Duane Waddle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > We tend to avoid the whole SMTP mess and deliver messages to mobiles and > pagers via a modem and the provider's TAP gateway. It works quite well with > Verizon and AT&T/Cingular, but I've no experience with T-Mobile. T-Mobile dropped th

Re: Using Mobile Phone email addys for monitoring

2007-09-06 Thread Alex Pilosov
On Thu, 6 Sep 2007, matthew zeier wrote: > Recommendations on software and modems? Couple of options: Dedicated cell phone connected via serial cable and gnokii-like software Analog modem and voice line and TAP software (like sendpage or qpage) Technically, SNPP is the appropriate solution, bu

Re: Using Mobile Phone email addys for monitoring

2007-09-06 Thread William Herrin
On 9/6/07, Rick Kunkel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > We've traditionally used mobile phone email addresses for system > notifications, but over the past 6-12 months, it seems to have become > increasingly sketchy. Rick, I've had good results with vzw.blackberry.net (Verizon Wireless + Blackberry)

Re: Using Mobile Phone email addys for monitoring

2007-09-06 Thread Seth Mattinen
matthew zeier wrote: > Anyone else have any issues, past or present, with this kind of thing? It takes ~ 7 minutes from the time Nagios sends an email sms to AT&T to the time it hits my phone. I'm using @mobile.mycingular.com because mmode.com stopped working (which results in at least

RE: Using Mobile Phone email addys for monitoring

2007-09-06 Thread Brian Knoll \(TTNET\)
x27;t want to rely on anything that sends emails. Brian Knoll -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Kunkel Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2007 3:46 PM To: nanog@merit.edu Subject: Using Mobile Phone email addys for monitoring Hello folks,

Re: Using Mobile Phone email addys for monitoring

2007-09-06 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Thu, Sep 06, 2007 at 01:46:18PM -0700, Rick Kunkel wrote: > For instance, if an application fails to contact a certain service on a > certain server, it sends an email (through it's own SMTP service, to avoid > a chicken-and-egg prob if/when our main SMTP service fails) to [...] > Is SMTP to

Re: Using Mobile Phone email addys for monitoring

2007-09-06 Thread Vince
matthew zeier wrote: > Anyone else have any issues, past or present, with this kind of thing? It takes ~ 7 minutes from the time Nagios sends an email sms to AT&T to the time it hits my phone. I'm using @mobile.mycingular.com because mmode.com stopped working (which results in at least

Re: Using Mobile Phone email addys for monitoring

2007-09-06 Thread Jared Mauch
On Thu, Sep 06, 2007 at 02:12:34PM -0700, matthew zeier wrote: > > > > > Anyone else have any issues, past or present, with this kind of thing? > > > It takes ~ 7 minutes from the time Nagios sends an email sms to AT&T to the > time it hits my phone. I'm using @mobile.mycingular.com bec

Re: Using Mobile Phone email addys for monitoring

2007-09-06 Thread Todd Underwood
On Thu, Sep 06, 2007 at 02:12:34PM -0700, matthew zeier wrote: > > > > > Anyone else have any issues, past or present, with this kind of >thing? as much as i hate to say it, verizon has been extremely reliable on the smtp<->sms gateway. been using them for paging for 3 years or so now and

Re: Using Mobile Phone email addys for monitoring

2007-09-06 Thread Duane Waddle
On 9/6/07, Rick Kunkel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [snip] We've traditionally used mobile phone email addresses for system > notifications, but over the past 6-12 months, it seems to have become > increasingly sketchy. [snip] Is SMTP to a mobile phone a fundamentally flawed way to do this? > >

Re: Using Mobile Phone email addys for monitoring

2007-09-06 Thread matthew zeier
Ken Simpson wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 It takes ~ 7 minutes from the time Nagios sends an email sms to AT&T to the time it hits my phone. I'm using @mobile.mycingular.com because mmode.com stopped working (which results in at least two txt pages vs. the one I was

Re: Using Mobile Phone email addys for monitoring

2007-09-06 Thread Ken Simpson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 > It takes ~ 7 minutes from the time Nagios sends an email sms to AT&T to > the time it hits my phone. I'm using @mobile.mycingular.com because > mmode.com stopped working (which results in at least two txt pages vs. > the one I was used to). > >

Re: Using Mobile Phone email addys for monitoring

2007-09-06 Thread Roland Dobbins
On Sep 6, 2007, at 1:46 PM, Rick Kunkel wrote: Is SMTP to a mobile phone a fundamentally flawed way to do this? Yes, IMHO - too many things to fail, including potentially your own DCN, the SMTP gateway service from the mobile operator, et. al. I'd strongly recommend a direct NMS-to-SMS g

Re: Using Mobile Phone email addys for monitoring

2007-09-06 Thread matthew zeier
> Anyone else have any issues, past or present, with this kind of thing? It takes ~ 7 minutes from the time Nagios sends an email sms to AT&T to the time it hits my phone. I'm using @mobile.mycingular.com because mmode.com stopped working (which results in at least two txt pages vs. the

Using Mobile Phone email addys for monitoring

2007-09-06 Thread Rick Kunkel
Hello folks, First off, apologies if this is off topic. I'm hoping that system and network monitoring tip are enough of a common issue that this falls under the group's charter. We've traditionally used mobile phone email addresses for system notifications, but over the past 6-12 months, it see