Re: redefining which infrastructure is the proble [was: Re: On-going ..]

2007-04-02 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Mon, 02 Apr 2007 15:16:34 BST, Rod Beck said: > I don't think volunteer organizations are ideal from an accountability > point of view. On the other hand, most volunteer organizations are thought of as being more trustable than corporations or governments, precisely because while often a corpor

Re: redefining which infrastructure is the proble [was: Re: On-going ..]

2007-04-02 Thread Douglas Dever
My apologies to all for feeding the trolls... On 4/2/07, Rod Beck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I rarely post, but that is clearly a problem. The Americans seem to believe in the presumption of guilt and the infallibility of accusation. As an American born and bred I can hardly be accused of bi

RE: redefining which infrastructure is the proble [was: Re: On-going ..]

2007-04-02 Thread Rod Beck
or authority is the greatest enemy of truth.'' Albert Einstein. -Original Message- From: John Levine [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Mon 4/2/2007 3:03 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Rod Beck Subject: Re: redefining which infrastructure is the proble [was: Re: On-going ..] &g

Re: redefining which infrastructure is the proble [was: Re: On-going ..]

2007-04-02 Thread John Levine
>I rarely post, but that is clearly a problem. The Americans seem to >believe in the presumption of guilt and the infallibility of >accusation. As an American born and bred I can hardly be accused of >bias. >Clearly spam is a serious problem in terms of draining network >resources, but organizat

RE: redefining which infrastructure is the proble [was: Re: On-going ..]

2007-04-02 Thread Gadi Evron
On Mon, 2 Apr 2007, Rod Beck wrote: > I rarely post, but that is clearly a problem. The Americans seem to believe > in the presumption of guilt and the infallibility of accusation. As an > American born and bred I can hardly be accused of bias. > > Clearly spam is a serious problem in terms o

RE: redefining which infrastructure is the proble [was: Re: On-going ..]

2007-04-02 Thread Rod Beck
ECTED] ``Unthinking respect for authority is the greatest enemy of truth.'' Albert Einstein. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Stephane Bortzmeyer Sent: Mon 4/2/2007 1:58 PM To: Gadi Evron Cc: nanog@merit.edu Subject: Re: redefining which infrastructure is

Re: redefining which infrastructure is the proble [was: Re: On-going ..]

2007-04-02 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Sun, Apr 01, 2007 at 09:51:16PM -0500, Gadi Evron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote a message of 39 lines which said: > I can testify as to some registrars (enom, godaddy, tucows, etc.) being > very responsive and some registries (read .info) being very > cooperative. > > OBVIOUSLY this is not the

redefining which infrastructure is the proble [was: Re: On-going ..]

2007-04-01 Thread Gadi Evron
On 1 Apr 2007, Paul Vixie wrote: > > > We're looking at the alligators surrounding us. Gadi is trying to > > convince us to help him in draining the swamp (which may indeed be a > > positive thing in the long run). > > > > Does that sound about right? > > that sounds exactly wrong. harkening