Re: [NOC] ARIN contact needed: something bad happens with legacy IPv4 block's reverse delegations

2017-03-20 Thread William Herrin
On Mon, Mar 20, 2017 at 3:27 PM, Brett Frankenberger wrote: > If ARIN delegated 32.11.10.in-addr.arpa through 47.11.10.in-addr.arpa > to a RIPE nameserver, there's no good way for RIPE to then delegate, > say, 10.11.34.0/24 (34.11.10.in-addr.arpa) to the nameserver of the > entity to which RIPE h

Re: [NOC] ARIN contact needed: something bad happens with legacy IPv4 block's reverse delegations

2017-03-20 Thread Brett Frankenberger
On Sat, Mar 18, 2017 at 09:27:11PM -0700, Doug Barton wrote: > > > As to why DNS-native zone operations are not utilized, the challenge > > is that reverse DNS zones for IPv4 and DNS operations are on octet > > boundaries, but IPv4 address blocks may be aligned on any bit > > boundary. > > Yes, d

Re: [NOC] ARIN contact needed: something bad happens with legacy IPv4 block's reverse delegations

2017-03-19 Thread Romeo Zwart
Dear John, Bill and all, On 17/03/17 19:31 , John Curran wrote: > On 17 Mar 2017, at 2:17 PM, William Herrin wrote: >> >> On Fri, Mar 17, 2017 at 2:14 PM, John Curran wrote: >> >>> See previous reply. The data was both correctly formatted and signed, >>> so the agreed integrity checks passed. >

Re: [NOC] ARIN contact needed: something bad happens with legacy IPv4 block's reverse delegations

2017-03-19 Thread Doug Barton
On 03/18/2017 10:53 PM, John Curran wrote: On 19 Mar 2017, at 12:50 AM, Doug Barton mailto:do...@dougbarton.us>> wrote: ... Meanwhile, my offer to help y'all fix your DNS was a sincere one. Feel free to hit me up off list. Doug - You’d want to make that offer to the RIPE NCC My offer was

Re: [NOC] ARIN contact needed: something bad happens with legacy IPv4 block's reverse delegations

2017-03-18 Thread John Curran
On 19 Mar 2017, at 12:50 AM, Doug Barton mailto:do...@dougbarton.us>> wrote: ... Meanwhile, my offer to help y'all fix your DNS was a sincere one. Feel free to hit me up off list. Doug - You’d want to make that offer to the RIPE NCC (as they experienced the issues with their DNS systems.)

Re: [NOC] ARIN contact needed: something bad happens with legacy IPv4 block's reverse delegations

2017-03-18 Thread Doug Barton
On 03/18/2017 09:40 PM, John Curran wrote: On 19 Mar 2017, at 12:27 AM, Doug Barton wrote: ... Despite the associated risk, we are happy to install such checks if RIPE requests them, but are this time are processing them as we agreed to do so – which is whenever we receive correctly formatted

Re: [NOC] ARIN contact needed: something bad happens with legacy IPv4 block's reverse delegations

2017-03-18 Thread John Curran
On 19 Mar 2017, at 12:27 AM, Doug Barton wrote: > ... >> Despite the associated risk, we are happy to install such checks if >> RIPE requests them, but are this time are processing them as we >> agreed to do so – which is whenever we receive correctly formatted >> and properly signed requests from

Re: [NOC] ARIN contact needed: something bad happens with legacy IPv4 block's reverse delegations

2017-03-18 Thread Doug Barton
Thanks for the response, John. Some thoughts below. On 03/18/2017 08:58 PM, John Curran wrote: On 18 Mar 2017, at 9:58 PM, Doug Barton mailto:do...@dougbarton.us>> wrote: My eyebrows reacted to this the same way Bill's did. It sounds like this is at least a semi-automated system. Such things s

Re: [NOC] ARIN contact needed: something bad happens with legacy IPv4 block's reverse delegations

2017-03-18 Thread John Curran
On 18 Mar 2017, at 9:58 PM, Doug Barton wrote: > > My eyebrows reacted to this the same way Bill's did. It sounds like this is > at least a semi-automated system. Such things should have sanity checks on > the receiving side when told to remove large gobs of data, even if the > instructions va

Re: [NOC] ARIN contact needed: something bad happens with legacy IPv4 block's reverse delegations

2017-03-18 Thread Doug Barton
On 03/17/2017 10:42 AM, Mark Kosters wrote: On 3/17/17, 12:26 PM, "NANOG on behalf of William Herrin" wrote: On Fri, Mar 17, 2017 at 7:52 AM, Romeo Zwart wrote: RIPE NCC have issued a statement about the issue here: https://www.ripe.net/ripe/mail/archives/dns-wg/2017-March/003394.html

Re: [NOC] ARIN contact needed: something bad happens with legacy IPv4 block's reverse delegations

2017-03-17 Thread William Herrin
On Fri, Mar 17, 2017 at 2:31 PM, John Curran wrote: > Glad to help (and apologies for the information coming out in pieces – > we’ve opted to go with updates as we learn more rather than some for > comprehensive but less timely report.) > Also very much appreciated. Regards, Bill Herrin -- W

Re: [NOC] ARIN contact needed: something bad happens with legacy IPv4 block's reverse delegations

2017-03-17 Thread John Curran
On 17 Mar 2017, at 2:17 PM, William Herrin wrote: > > On Fri, Mar 17, 2017 at 2:14 PM, John Curran wrote: > >> See previous reply. The data was both correctly formatted and signed, >> so the agreed integrity checks passed. >> > > Ah, okay. So it wasn't bad counts as originally reported but n

Re: [NOC] ARIN contact needed: something bad happens with legacy IPv4 block's reverse delegations

2017-03-17 Thread William Herrin
On Fri, Mar 17, 2017 at 2:14 PM, John Curran wrote: > See previous reply. The data was both correctly formatted and signed, > so the agreed integrity checks passed. > Ah, okay. So it wasn't bad counts as originally reported but no data with counts that confirmed no data. Thanks for the clarific

Re: [NOC] ARIN contact needed: something bad happens with legacy IPv4 block's reverse delegations

2017-03-17 Thread John Curran
On 17 Mar 2017, at 2:08 PM, William Herrin wrote: > > On Fri, Mar 17, 2017 at 1:42 PM, Mark Kosters wrote: >> On 3/17/17, 12:26 PM, "NANOG on behalf of William Herrin" < > nanog-boun...@nanog.org on behalf of b...@herrin.us> wrote: >>>Hmm. That sounds like an ARIN-side bug too. ARIN's code r

Re: [NOC] ARIN contact needed: something bad happens with legacy IPv4 block's reverse delegations

2017-03-17 Thread John Curran
On 17 Mar 2017, at 12:26 PM, William Herrin mailto:b...@herrin.us>> wrote: On Fri, Mar 17, 2017 at 7:52 AM, Romeo Zwart mailto:rz%2b...@zwart.com>> wrote: > RIPE NCC have issued a statement about the issue here: > > https://www.ripe.net/ripe/mail/archives/dns-wg/2017-March/003394.html > > Our a

Re: [NOC] ARIN contact needed: something bad happens with legacy IPv4 block's reverse delegations

2017-03-17 Thread Mark Kosters
On 3/17/17, 12:26 PM, "NANOG on behalf of William Herrin" wrote: On Fri, Mar 17, 2017 at 7:52 AM, Romeo Zwart wrote: > RIPE NCC have issued a statement about the issue here: > > https://www.ripe.net/ripe/mail/archives/dns-wg/2017-March/003394.html > > Our apologies for

Re: [NOC] ARIN contact needed: something bad happens with legacy IPv4 block's reverse delegations

2017-03-17 Thread William Herrin
On Fri, Mar 17, 2017 at 1:42 PM, Mark Kosters wrote: > On 3/17/17, 12:26 PM, "NANOG on behalf of William Herrin" < nanog-boun...@nanog.org on behalf of b...@herrin.us> wrote: >> Hmm. That sounds like an ARIN-side bug too. ARIN's code responded to >> corrupted data by zeroing out the data i

Re: [NOC] ARIN contact needed: something bad happens with legacy IPv4 block's reverse delegations

2017-03-17 Thread George William Herbert
> On Mar 17, 2017, at 10:28 AM, valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wrote: > > On Fri, 17 Mar 2017 17:42:11 +0100, Bjørn Mork said: >> Well, it was a nice smoke test of the "RDNS required" anti-feature. All >> of a sudden we couldn't even send email to ourselves, having smarthosts >> in one of the affect

Re: [NOC] ARIN contact needed: something bad happens with legacy IPv4 block's reverse delegations

2017-03-17 Thread valdis . kletnieks
On Fri, 17 Mar 2017 17:42:11 +0100, Bjørn Mork said: > Well, it was a nice smoke test of the "RDNS required" anti-feature. All > of a sudden we couldn't even send email to ourselves, having smarthosts > in one of the affected zones. Nice. If you don't have a chaos monkey, the Internet will provid

Re: [NOC] ARIN contact needed: something bad happens with legacy IPv4 block's reverse delegations

2017-03-17 Thread Jared Mauch
On Fri, Mar 17, 2017 at 05:42:11PM +0100, Bjørn Mork wrote: > William Herrin writes: > > On Fri, Mar 17, 2017 at 7:52 AM, Romeo Zwart wrote: > >> RIPE NCC have issued a statement about the issue here: > >> > >> https://www.ripe.net/ripe/mail/archives/dns-wg/2017-March/003394.html > >> > >> Our a

Re: [NOC] ARIN contact needed: something bad happens with legacy IPv4 block's reverse delegations

2017-03-17 Thread Bjørn Mork
William Herrin writes: > On Fri, Mar 17, 2017 at 7:52 AM, Romeo Zwart wrote: >> RIPE NCC have issued a statement about the issue here: >> >> https://www.ripe.net/ripe/mail/archives/dns-wg/2017-March/003394.html >> >> Our apologies for the inconvenience caused. > > Hmm. That sounds like an ARIN-s

Re: [NOC] ARIN contact needed: something bad happens with legacy IPv4 block's reverse delegations

2017-03-17 Thread William Herrin
On Fri, Mar 17, 2017 at 7:52 AM, Romeo Zwart wrote: > RIPE NCC have issued a statement about the issue here: > > https://www.ripe.net/ripe/mail/archives/dns-wg/2017-March/003394.html > > Our apologies for the inconvenience caused. Hmm. That sounds like an ARIN-side bug too. ARIN's code responded

Re: [NOC] ARIN contact needed: something bad happens with legacy IPv4 block's reverse delegations

2017-03-17 Thread Romeo Zwart
Dear all, RIPE NCC have issued a statement about the issue here: https://www.ripe.net/ripe/mail/archives/dns-wg/2017-March/003394.html Our apologies for the inconvenience caused. Kind regards, Romeo Zwart RIPE NCC On 17/03/17 12:31 , John Curran wrote: > Eygene - > > We are aware there’s

Re: ARIN contact needed: something bad happens with legacy IPv4 block's reverse delegations

2017-03-17 Thread Alberto Delgado
I just receive an answer from RIPE and now its working again: Dear Alberto, Our apologies for this. There was a bug in our DNS provisioning system, and it temporarily caused some delegations (where the parent zone is operated by ARIN) to be removed. The bug has been fixed, and the correct d

Re: ARIN contact needed: something bad happens with legacy IPv4 block's reverse delegations

2017-03-17 Thread Alberto Delgado
Me too. We have a 164.138.208.0/22 and we have issues with dns reverse too We sent an email to ripe support, but no answer yet El 2017-03-17 10:53, Stephane Bortzmeyer escribió: On Fri, Mar 17, 2017 at 12:03:58PM +0300, Eygene Ryabinkin wrote a message of 71 lines which said: Seems

Re: [NOC] ARIN contact needed: something bad happens with legacy IPv4 block's reverse delegations

2017-03-17 Thread John Curran
Folks - RIPE NCC has backed out the change at issue, and we are again processing zonelet files received from them. They’ve posted more details here - FYI, /John John Curran President and CEO ARIN On 17 Mar 2017, at 12:31

Re: [NOC] ARIN contact needed: something bad happens with legacy IPv4 block's reverse delegations

2017-03-17 Thread Eygene Ryabinkin
John, Alex, Romeo, Fri, Mar 17, 2017 at 12:31:06PM +0100, John Curran wrote: > We are aware there’s an issue and working on it presently with RIPE. > Expect additional updates shortly. Fri, Mar 17, 2017 at 12:50:48PM +0100, Alex Band wrote: > You can find a detailed announcement from the RIP

Re: [NOC] ARIN contact needed: something bad happens with legacy IPv4 block's reverse delegations

2017-03-17 Thread Alex Band
You can find a detailed announcement from the RIPE NCC here: https://www.ripe.net/ripe/mail/archives/dns-wg/2017-March/003394.html -Alex Band > On 17 Mar 2017, at 12:31, John Curran wrote: > > Eygene - > > We are aware

Re: [NOC] ARIN contact needed: something bad happens with legacy IPv4 block's reverse delegations

2017-03-17 Thread John Curran
Eygene - We are aware there’s an issue and working on it presently with RIPE. Expect additional updates shortly. /John John Curran President and CEO ARIN > On 17 Mar 2017, at 11:04 AM, Eygene Ryabinkin wrote: > > Job, good day. > > Fri, Mar 17, 2017 at 09:55:56AM +, Job Snijders wr

Re: [NOC] ARIN contact needed: something bad happens with legacy IPv4 block's reverse delegations

2017-03-17 Thread Eygene Ryabinkin
Job, good day. Fri, Mar 17, 2017 at 09:55:56AM +, Job Snijders wrote: > 171 also seems affected. Not the whole one, it seems: {{{ $ dig +trace -t soa 1.171.in-addr.arpa ; <<>> DiG 9.10.4-P6 <<>> +trace -t soa 1.171.in-addr.arpa ;; global options: +cmd . 202634 IN

Re: ARIN contact needed: something bad happens with legacy IPv4 block's reverse delegations

2017-03-17 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Fri, Mar 17, 2017 at 12:03:58PM +0300, Eygene Ryabinkin wrote a message of 71 lines which said: > We (at Kurchatov Insitute) still use 144.206.0.0/16, the legacy > block, and seeing the breakage rooted at ARIN since this night, > {{{ > $ dig +trace -t soa 206.144.in-addr.arpa According to

Re: ARIN contact needed: something bad happens with legacy IPv4 block's reverse delegations

2017-03-17 Thread Job Snijders
171 also seems affected. Job On Fri, 17 Mar 2017 at 10:54, Stephane Bortzmeyer wrote: > On Fri, Mar 17, 2017 at 12:03:58PM +0300, > Eygene Ryabinkin wrote > a message of 71 lines which said: > > > Seems like the other /16 from 144.in-addr.arpa are affected too > > (at least). > > Also in 164

Re: ARIN contact needed: something bad happens with legacy IPv4 block's reverse delegations

2017-03-17 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Fri, Mar 17, 2017 at 12:03:58PM +0300, Eygene Ryabinkin wrote a message of 71 lines which said: > Seems like the other /16 from 144.in-addr.arpa are affected too > (at least). Also in 164.in-addr.arpa, it seems?

ARIN contact needed: something bad happens with legacy IPv4 block's reverse delegations

2017-03-17 Thread Eygene Ryabinkin
We (at Kurchatov Insitute) still use 144.206.0.0/16, the legacy block, and seeing the breakage rooted at ARIN since this night, {{{ $ dig +trace -t soa 206.144.in-addr.arpa ; <<>> DiG 9.10.4-P6 <<>> +trace -t soa 206.144.in-addr.arpa ;; global options: +cmd . 206351 IN