On Mon, 14 Sep 2009 16:52:26 CDT, Jorge Amodio said:
> In the transition from the old IANA to FrICANNstein
Well, that monitor needed cleaning anynow... ;)
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Be careful about what you are asking for.
>> i am not saying all is well here. i am just trying to move slowly and
>> pretend to think while on my first cuppa.
I agree with Randy that this is a reasonable approach.
In the transition from the old IANA to FrICANNstein and the separation
of number
>> tough one. those 'bad' blocks will seem less and less bad over time.
> Sure things are less bad over time, once they are removed from 'bad
> actor control'
actually, i meant as ipv4 scarcity worsens
on the other side of the coin, olaf maennel and i did a bunch of work so
that rirs, specifical
On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 5:12 PM, Randy Bush wrote:
>> 1) not allocating to known offendors (even those who've been through
>> the court system and had judgements against them, which would be
>> following your proposed path)
>
> [ i made no proposal. i was just a bit scared by the instant "we need
> 1) not allocating to known offendors (even those who've been through
> the court system and had judgements against them, which would be
> following your proposed path)
[ i made no proposal. i was just a bit scared by the instant "we need
to DO SOMETHING" reaction. ] but what you say seems some
On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 4:47 PM, Randy Bush wrote:
>> I haven't followed this entire string. Are you saying ARIN is repeatedly
>> handing out address space to known abusers? If that's the case then yes,
>> some form of policy should be worked on.
>
> i might walk more slowly and with a bit les
> I haven't followed this entire string. Are you saying ARIN is repeatedly
> handing out address space to known abusers? If that's the case then yes,
> some form of policy should be worked on.
i might walk more slowly and with a bit less self-righteousness. this
is not a simple area. are we
> > If this is the case one could argue that ARIN should be reserving this
> > "worthless" address space to be used when they receive similar requests
> > in the future. There's no reason personX should get fresh, clean address
> > space when they make additional requests.
>
> That implies some pr
On Mon, 14 Sep 2009, Adrian Minta wrote:
Hijacking is not possible since most ISP's use filters based on RIPE
Database.
This is not true. Some filter, but most don't.
--
Mikael Abrahamssonemail: swm...@swm.pp.se
In Europe RIPE has a nice database. Hijacking is not possible since most
ISP's use filters based on RIPE Database.
Why ARIN don't use a similar tool ?
Morrow; Chris Marlatt
Cc: John Curran; nanog@nanog.org
Subject: RE: Hijacked Blocks
I haven't followed this entire string. Are you saying ARIN is repeatedly
handing out address space to known abusers? If that's the case then yes, some
form of policy should be worked on. If on the admi
stopher Morrow [mailto:morrowc.li...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 9:40 AM
To: Chris Marlatt
Cc: John Curran; nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: Hijacked Blocks
On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 11:58 AM, Chris Marlatt wrote:
> Christopher Morrow wrote:
>> The end of the discussion was along the l
Christopher Morrow wrote:
> The end of the discussion was along the lines of: "Yes, we know this
> guy is bad news, but he always comes to us with the proper paperwork
> and numbers, there's nothing in the current policy set to deny him
> address resources. Happily though he never pays his bill aft
On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 11:58 AM, Chris Marlatt wrote:
> Christopher Morrow wrote:
>> The end of the discussion was along the lines of: "Yes, we know this
>> guy is bad news, but he always comes to us with the proper paperwork
>> and numbers, there's nothing in the current policy set to deny him
>
On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 7:05 AM, John Curran wrote:
> On Sep 14, 2009, at 6:49 AM, Rich Kulawiec wrote:
>> ...
>> For example: Ron Guilmette has recently pointed out that notorious
>> spammer
>> Scott Richter has apparently hijacked *another* /16 block --
>> 150.230.0.0/16.
oh lokoie, announced b
On Sep 14, 2009, at 6:49 AM, Rich Kulawiec wrote:
> ...
> For example: Ron Guilmette has recently pointed out that notorious
> spammer
> Scott Richter has apparently hijacked *another* /16 block --
> 150.230.0.0/16.
> I've dropped that block into various local blacklists, and in some
> cases,
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