Re: automated site to site vpn recommendations

2016-06-30 Thread Geoff Wolf AB3LS
I have a feeling that most if not all of the requirements you have could be achieved with a Cisco ISR router running some kind of FlexVPN/DMVPN setup back to a network VPN hub. The ISR G3 series has the option of enabling a built in firewall/IPS. You'd need a RADIUS solution to authenticate the VPN

Re: automated site to site vpn recommendations

2016-06-29 Thread Tim Raphael
There is a downside to subscription pricing for the vendor: they don't get the instant cashflow they're used to. I know Cisco seems to be taking a tactic where only some product lines use subscriptions and the others are on a typical enterprise 3-5 year replacements cycle to provide Cisco with t

Re: automated site to site vpn recommendations

2016-06-29 Thread Karl Auer
On Wed, 2016-06-29 at 16:00 -0700, Seth Mattinen wrote: > I often wonder if Microsoft will someday make Office365 the only way > to get Office, which if you don't maintain a subscription your > locally installed copy of Word will cease to function. I live for that day. Regards, K. -- ~

Re: automated site to site vpn recommendations

2016-06-29 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 6/29/16 15:33, Eric Kuhnke wrote: My biggest issue with Meraki is the fundamentally flawed business model, biased in favor of vendor lock in and endlessly recurring payments to the equipment vendor rather than the ISP or enterprise end user. You should not have to pay a yearly subscription fe

Re: automated site to site vpn recommendations

2016-06-29 Thread Spencer Ryan
I treat Meraki like SmartNET. The subscription comes with lifetime support (TAC + Warranty), you do have support on your production network gear don't you? It's not like they trick you going into it either. I for one am a huge fan of the simplicity, it just works. Disclaimer: We use them. ~35 acce

Re: automated site to site vpn recommendations

2016-06-29 Thread Eric Kuhnke
My biggest issue with Meraki is the fundamentally flawed business model, biased in favor of vendor lock in and endlessly recurring payments to the equipment vendor rather than the ISP or enterprise end user. You should not have to pay a yearly subscription fee to keep your in-house 802.11(abgn/ac)

Re: automated site to site vpn recommendations

2016-06-29 Thread Greg Sowell
2016 6:28 PM > To: Karl Auer > Cc: nanog@nanog.org > Subject: Re: automated site to site vpn recommendations > > I would second Meraki for the situation you describe. I don't feel that > they are the most capable platform, they're expensive, and don't always > present

RE: automated site to site vpn recommendations

2016-06-29 Thread c b
anks again. > From: r...@tehorange.com > Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2016 09:03:06 -0400 > Subject: Re: automated site to site vpn recommendations > To: p...@nashnetworks.ca > CC: nanog@nanog.org > > For several of our clients, we use Sophos UTMs coupled with their RED > units. Once reg

Re: automated site to site vpn recommendations

2016-06-29 Thread Rich Testani
For several of our clients, we use Sophos UTMs coupled with their RED units. Once registered with the UTM, the RED unit auto creates an SSL based VPN back to the UTM. The RED unit is managed from the UTM and pulls it's config when it boots. It's similar to the function of Meraki without the direc

Re: automated site to site vpn recommendations

2016-06-29 Thread Shawn L
tled 3" Subject: Re: automated site to site vpn recommendations My biggest issue with Meraki is that their tech staff can run tcpdump on the wired or wireless interface of your Meraki box without having to leave their desk. I have no reason to believe that they are malicious, or in the pay

Re: automated site to site vpn recommendations

2016-06-29 Thread Paul Nash
My biggest issue with Meraki is that their tech staff can run tcpdump on the wired or wireless interface of your Meraki box without having to leave their desk. I have no reason to believe that they are malicious, or in the pay of the NSA, but I am too paranoid to allow their equipment anywhere

RE: automated site to site vpn recommendations

2016-06-28 Thread Richard Greasley
t the cheapest solution, but for sure they get the job done. Regards, Richard. -Original Message- From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Dan Stralka Sent: Monday, June 27, 2016 6:28 PM To: Karl Auer Cc: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: automated site to site vpn recommendatio

Re: automated site to site vpn recommendations

2016-06-28 Thread Dan Stralka
I would second Meraki for the situation you describe. I don't feel that they are the most capable platform, they're expensive, and don't always present you with all the information you'd need for troubleshooting. However, the VPN offers great dynamic tunneling, instant-on performance, and are by fa

Re: automated site to site vpn recommendations

2016-06-27 Thread Mikeal Clark
Fortinet has stuff that does this that is non-IT friendly. On Mon, Jun 27, 2016 at 4:59 PM, Karl Auer wrote: > On Mon, 2016-06-27 at 13:08 -0700, c b wrote: > > In some cases... > > The words "in some cases" are a problem with any supposedly plug and > play solution. > > > We really could use a

Re: automated site to site vpn recommendations

2016-06-27 Thread Karl Auer
On Mon, 2016-06-27 at 13:08 -0700, c b wrote: > In some cases... The words "in some cases" are a problem with any supposedly plug and play solution. > We really could use a simple solution that you > just flip on, it calls home, and works... ...but still requiring someone to enter credentials of

RE: automated site to site vpn recommendations

2016-06-27 Thread Shawn L
a couple of Z1s the cost isn't too bad. Shawn -Original Message- From: "c b" Sent: Monday, June 27, 2016 4:08pm To: "nanog@nanog.org" Subject: automated site to site vpn recommendations Situation: We have salespeople/engineers holding temporary semin

automated site to site vpn recommendations

2016-06-27 Thread c b
Situation: We have salespeople/engineers holding temporary seminars/training/demonstrations in hotel meeting rooms. Requirements: field people need a very plug-n-play, simple, reliable vpn back to corporate offices to present videos/slides/demonstrations. The materials are not accessible via th