On Sat, 2003-11-01 at 12:07, Margot wrote:
> Aronsmith wrote:
> > On Sat, 2003-11-01 at 11:19, Margot wrote:
> >
> >>HaywireMac wrote:
> >>
> >>>On Sat, 01 Nov 2003 16:50:10 +
> >>>Graham Watkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> uttered:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> boys,
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>that should be singula
Aronsmith wrote:
On Sat, 2003-11-01 at 11:19, Margot wrote:
HaywireMac wrote:
On Sat, 01 Nov 2003 16:50:10 +
Graham Watkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> uttered:
boys,
that should be singular. I didn't call anyone's opinion "shrill",
"silly", or other such things. Up to that point it was a fairly
On Sat, 2003-11-01 at 11:19, Margot wrote:
> HaywireMac wrote:
> > On Sat, 01 Nov 2003 16:50:10 +
> > Graham Watkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> uttered:
> >
> >
> >>boys,
> >
> >
> > that should be singular. I didn't call anyone's opinion "shrill",
> > "silly", or other such things. Up to that poi
On Saturday 01 November 2003 09:55 am, HaywireMac wrote:
> On Sat, 1 Nov 2003 09:40:51 -0500
>
> Bryan Phinney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> uttered:
> > Cute little sayings like this are relatively meaningless to me.
> > Anarchy would be far worse for all of us than even "over-the-top"
> > government. Laws
On Sat, 1 Nov 2003 09:40:51 -0500
Bryan Phinney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> uttered:
> Cute little sayings like this are relatively meaningless to me.
> Anarchy would be far worse for all of us than even "over-the-top"
> government. Laws are an absolute necessity without which there can be
> no social c
On Friday 31 October 2003 09:38 pm, HaywireMac wrote:
> On Fri, 31 Oct 2003 15:17:50 -0500
>
> Bryan Phinney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> uttered:
> > The answer however, is not to reject everything out of hand and adopt
> > the position that no law can be useful.
>
> Unless you recognize that laws *create
On Friday 31 October 2003 06:38 pm, HaywireMac wrote:
> On Fri, 31 Oct 2003 15:17:50 -0500
>
> Bryan Phinney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> uttered:
> > The answer however, is not to reject everything out of hand and
> > adopt the position that no law can be useful.
>
> Unless you recognize that laws *create
On Fri, 31 Oct 2003 15:17:50 -0500
Bryan Phinney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> uttered:
>
> The answer however, is not to reject everything out of hand and adopt
> the position that no law can be useful.
Unless you recognize that laws *create disorder* ;-)
"The more laws and order are made prominent, the
On Fri, 31 Oct 2003 10:57:04 -0500
Bryan Phinney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> This response actually brings up something that has been bugging me of
> late about some elements of the tech community. I realize that there
> are a large number of clueless politicians and lawyers out there but
> te
On Friday 31 October 2003 11:38 am, Tango Echo wrote:
> > Well, I am not a resident of Illinois, therefore,
> > this particular criminal
> > code does not apply to me.
>
> Good, but you might want to check these states too:
> http://www.eff.org/IP/DMCA/states/
I might check the laws, not someone'
On Friday 31 October 2003 11:29 am, HaywireMac wrote:
> Relying on politicians and lawyers to protect us has never served us
> well in the past, I see no reason to expect anything different for the
> future.
The answer however, is not to reject everything out of hand and adopt the
position that
> > Ah! Here is the reference:
> http://www.hackbusters.net
> > While it's possible it may deal directly with his
> > LaBrea tar pit program, it appears to hinge around
> the
> > tar pit technology. Here's a quote from the site:
> > Quote:
> >
> > This section of the Illinois Criminal Code was
>
On Fri, 31 Oct 2003 10:57:04 -0500
Bryan Phinney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> uttered:
> The fact is that tortured readings of laws and paranoid ravings about
> the possible clueless applications of laws does not do the tech
> community any service. It makes us all appear to be unreasonable and
> unwilli
On Friday 31 October 2003 09:17 am, Tango Echo wrote:
> Ah! Here is the reference: http://www.hackbusters.net
> While it's possible it may deal directly with his
> LaBrea tar pit program, it appears to hinge around the
> tar pit technology. Here's a quote from the site:
> Quote:
>
> This section
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