I was looking through Maximum Linux magazine early today, and saw a shortened key board in the original lay out. NO caps lot key, no Windoze key, and all that good stuff. Doesn't have the number pad either. As I was looking at the key board, I was curious if anybody knew of a keyboard that didn't have the letters printed on the keys. I know there's no real NEED for this, but I just thought that was kewl. I don't look at the letters when I type, so why are there? And it would help me learn the numbers/symbols better. I figured this would be the best place to ask, so here I am asking. If you're interested in the keyboard I mentioned you can find it at http://www.pfuca.com/products/products.html. And if you know of a place to get a keyboard with out the letters printed on them, please let me know! Thank you! tdh -- T. Holmes Unixtechs.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.unixtechs.org/ "Real Men use Vi."