I've just installed 7.1dlx on a system here and I got the crypt files. I fixed up the network stuff so it is ok, but when httpd (apache) starts I get this in the error_log: [Wed Aug 30 16:30:33 2000] [error] mod_ssl: Child could not open SSLMutex lockfi le /var/log/httpd/ssl_mutex.15515 (System error follows) [Wed Aug 30 16:30:33 2000] [error] System: Permission denied (errno: 13) The same thing is repeated in ssl_engine.log. I changed the ownership of the log directory so that user & group 'nobody' owned it, but that didn't make any difference. Any idea? -- Damien Mc Kenna, Paraprofessional The Computer Institute, 100 Waldon Blvd., Sanford, FL 32773 [EMAIL PROTECTED] - 407-328-4722 x3397