First of all I am now of the opinion that whole problem is out of the scope
of Mandrake as a product, but rather, is a KDE bug that needs to be
redirected to KDE. But I appreciate Mandrake's effort to help! I replied
to Axalon's questions anyway just for the heck of it, in case anyone else is
interested in the problem.
> Ok lets see posible causes,
> 1) kappfinder was takeing a "long time", so you shut down the Xserver to
> see what was going on and kappfinder did not complete
At the time I didn't even know what kappfinder was for, and had never used
it. Actually I still haven't :-)
> 2) Your computer locked up and you used reset button, filesystem got
> damaged, linking kde and gnome menus to same inode (so very very
Now this is possible. I have been told about how uncrashable Linux is but
so far I'm having to kill processes and/or reset my machine because of an
unreactive keyboard way more than I had to in Windows 98--I don't mean to
start a war about it though. It's not like I'm giving up on Linux... I'm
optimistic that I'll be able to learn what's going on and stop this from
happening all the time.
> unlikely, considering diff pc's)
> 3) Somebodys been playing with the menu editors
As far as I can tell, this problem can't even be replicated by playing with
menu editors. I remember trying to use the editor to get it back the way it
was, but discovered that I could only move individual application links, but
not whole directory links, which I would need to do to fix it. Gnome
"directories" as well as applications were showing up and would have needed
to be moved. I could tell they were Gnome directory links because they all
had little black dots next to their names. You can delete them, I think,
but try to move the KDE directory links to your custom menu, and they just
snap back to the right of the screen where they were--you can't do it.
> 4) Poltergiests have infiltrated your computers and it's time to get the
> priest
haha ;-)
> > I had been told to use Desktop Switching Tool--which did nothing. I had
> > also been told to try editing my start menu, which does not take care of
the
> > problem at all. Just a little FYI.
>
> Just exactly what were you expecting from it that it did not do? All it's
> intended todo is alter the ~/.xinitrc of the user.. (with option to change
> system default if root)
I wasn't expecting anything, I thought it was dumb advice but I just didn't
want to prevent someone from advising the same thing again out of
misunderstanding the problem ;-)
> > I was wondering, since it isn't a global malady, maybe it could be
remedied
> > if one could delete a "." file in their /home/$USER folder that sets
desktop
> > preferences, so it would be reset when they returned to KDE??? What do
you
> > think about that? I'm no longer having this particular problem so I
can't
> > test it out, but I just now thought of it.
>
> mv ~/.kde ~/kde.sux
> mv ~/.gnome ~/gnome.sux
> cp -r /etc/skell/.kde ~/
> cp -r /etc/skell/.gnome ~/
LOL. I take it you are not a GUI kind of guy. I'll have to remember that.
BTW Sam if this works for you, write so, so I know what to do next time!
> > BTW, I think the problem needs to be reported as a KDE bug to
www.kde.org.
> > I reported my problem since nobody could think of an answer for me!
Turns
> > out KDE is chock full of weird bugs.
>
> David? Daniel? (i don't know if they are subscribed here, if you believe
> its a bug in kde it's self and not our implementation you'll need file bug
> report thru their bug system)
I think it is a KDE bug but if someone from Mandrake knew of a work around,
it couldn't hurt to ask. Thanks for the help! ;-)
> > Karen
>
> PS. Niether one of you answer what i asked,
> ls -l /usr/share/applnk/Applications # Says what?
Sam needs to answer that one. I did a clean reinstalled to get rid of the
problem (being a newbie with no important data saved on the Linux partitions
just yet, that's how I fix a lot of weird stuff ;-) though I wanted to
express concern about it as it was frustrating and I'm afraid it might
happen again.
Thanks for the help.
Karen ~
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Axalon Bloodstone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 1999 3:08 PM
> > Subject: RE: [newbie] Installed 6.1 - KDE has GNOME menus
> >
> >
> > >
> > > It is supposed to have GNOME menus under KDE. They aren't supposed to
be
> > > directly under Applications.
> > >
> > > On Tue, 2 Nov 1999, Sam Gentile wrote:
> > >
> > > > It is not supposed to have GNOME menus under KDE. I am running KDE.
None
> > of
> > > > the menus have KDE things on them. I don't have my system here but
when
> > I
> > > > pull down the first entry - Applications?? - it has things like
gEDit
> > and
> > > > all the GNOME things instead of the KDE things. The rest of it is
> > > > unaffected. The desktop is KDE. The task bar is KDE and has KDE
things
> > on
> > > > it. It's just the menus are screwed up and look like the menus you
would
> > get
> > > > if you logged into GNOME.
> > >
> > > All the kde menus? or just Applications.
> > >
> > > ls -l /usr/share/applnk/Applications # says?
> > >
> > > > Sam Gentile
> > > >
> > > > Principal Software Engineer & Viridien Team Leader
> > > >
> > > > toysmart.com
> > > >
> > > > 170 High Street
> > > >
> > > > Waltham, MA 02454
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Axalon Bloodstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > Sent: Monday, November 01, 1999 4:49 PM
> > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Subject: Re: [newbie] Installed 6.1 - KDE has GNOME menus
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Going to have to describe better than that (better yet screenshot)
> > > >
> > > > as it's supposed to have gnome menus... it's kinda hard to guess
what
> > you
> > > > mean.
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, 1 Nov 1999, Karen M. Heiby wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > I'd just like to affirm that this is a problem that I have had,
too.
> > > > Maybe
> > > > > it's a bug?
> > > > >
> > > > > Karen
> > > > >
> > > > > Sam Gentile wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > I just installed Mandrake Power Pack 6.1 last night on a fresh
> > system
> > > > and
> > > > > > when I boot into KDE, it has the KDE look, the KDE taskbars and
such
> > but
> > > > > > Gnome menus!! How did this happen and how can I fix it?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Sam Gentile
> > > > > > Principle Software Engineer/Team Leader - Viridien Team
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > MandrakeSoft http://www.mandrakesoft.com/
> > > > --Axalon
> > > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > MandrakeSoft http://www.mandrakesoft.com/
> > > --Axalon
> > >
> >
> >
>
> --
> MandrakeSoft http://www.mandrakesoft.com/
> --Axalon
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