Julie Sloan wrote:
On Tuesday 08 March 2005 10:21 am, Josenildo Marques wrote:
On Tue, 2005-03-01 at 15:54 -0500, Julie Sloan wrote:
On Tuesday 01 March 2005 03:17 pm, Duncan Anderson wrote:
Editing text files is particularly irritating because my fingers
operate in "vi" mode reflexively.
I am look
On Tuesday 08 March 2005 10:21 am, Josenildo Marques wrote:
> On Tue, 2005-03-01 at 15:54 -0500, Julie Sloan wrote:
> > On Tuesday 01 March 2005 03:17 pm, Duncan Anderson wrote:
> > > Editing text files is particularly irritating because my fingers
> > > operate in "vi" mode reflexively.
> >
> > I
On Tue, 2005-03-01 at 15:54 -0500, Julie Sloan wrote:
> On Tuesday 01 March 2005 03:17 pm, Duncan Anderson wrote:
> >
> > Editing text files is particularly irritating because my fingers operate
> > in "vi" mode reflexively.
>
> I am looking forward to some day soon being able to say the same thi
On Friday 04 Mar 2005 20:54, Aron Smith wrote:
> On Thursday 03 March 2005 11:36 pm, Rosemary McGillicuddy wrote:
> > > >
> > >
> > > you all do know that as root "urpmi rute" will install rute,, adn just
> > > typing 'rute' in a cli will start ru
On Thursday 03 March 2005 11:36 pm, Rosemary McGillicuddy wrote:
> > >
> >
> > you all do know that as root "urpmi rute" will install rute,, adn just
> > typing 'rute' in a cli will start rute
> >
> >
> > ---
>
> Actually typing rute in cli di
> >
>
> you all do know that as root "urpmi rute" will install rute,, adn just
> typing 'rute' in a cli will start rute
>
>
> ---
Actually typing rute in cli didn't start rute for me. Though I haven't
urpmi'ed it yet.
_
>
> PS I assume you heve the kdegraphics-kghostview and/or acroread rpms
> installed. KGhostview is a program (and embeddable KPart) to display *.PDF
> and *.PS files.
Yes was pretty amazed when first installed mandrake 10.1 and cruising the
menus - to see what was there.
Rosemary
___
>
> Everything takes time to learn. That includes windows! How long did it
> take you to learn to use a computer in the beginning with any semblance
> of skill? I have had a terrible time changing because I was virtually
> computer illiterate to begin with, but I was dissatisfied enough with
>
>
> Whatever is best for you Rosemary.
> I love Linux, but live on solar power in the bush using a laptop, no
> serial port, with 31000 kbps Internet access. The desktop uses too much
> power, but it runs Linux and connects to the net when we have a bit of
> spare electrical power. But I use mainl
> I agree with Julie, don't give up. You are much more competent than I was
> when I started with Linux in 1998. (I think). I am not a computer guru,
> geek (well a wannabe maybe) or programmer and have to wear a name tag to
> remember my own name, but I have progressed to the point where I don't
On Tuesday 01 March 2005 08:54 pm, Julie Sloan wrote:
> > in "vi" mode reflexively.
>
> I am looking forward to some day soon being able to say the same
> thing. Â:)
_
your 'puter may have "vimtutor' already installed.
"vimtutor' . . . the tutor for VIM
best rgds
__
On Wednesday 02 Mar 2005 18:21, SnapafunFrank wrote:
> et wrote:
> > Travis Crook wrote:
> >> On Tue, 2005-03-01 at 06:50 -0500, Kenneth Rhodes wrote:
> >>> On Tue, 2005-03-01 at 23:45 +1300, SnapafunFrank wrote:
> SnapafunFrank wrote:
> > Hope you got Mozilla handy 'cause I'm not sure if
On Tue, 1 Mar 2005 10:59:30 +
"Ronald J. Hall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Tuesday 01 March 2005 09:00 am, Julie Sloan wrote:
> > On Tuesday 01 March 2005 03:30 am, riccardo wrote:
> > > On Tuesday 01 March 2005 08:19 am, Julie Sloan referred:
> > > >> handy, to have entire duplicate syste
On Tuesday 01 March 2005 10:06 pm, Russ Kepler wrote:
> On Tuesday 01 March 2005 07:21 pm, Julie Sloan wrote:
> > On Tuesday 01 March 2005 05:01 pm, Russ Kepler wrote:
> > > As long as you don't invoke the dreaded emacs you're all right with
> > > me. (There's something wrong with an editor that ha
et wrote:
Travis Crook wrote:
On Tue, 2005-03-01 at 06:50 -0500, Kenneth Rhodes wrote:
On Tue, 2005-03-01 at 23:45 +1300, SnapafunFrank wrote:
SnapafunFrank wrote:
Hope you got Mozilla handy 'cause I'm not sure if Firefox can
handle this site but have I got it easy for you
Go to
Russ Kepler wrote:
I don't think there's a 'proper' way to learn MS-DOS. My first conputer was
an IBM 360/65 running a timeshare simulator called RAX, heck, the first
programming test I ever took was to see if I could hold a 1401 punchboard at
arms length, so I'm a proper dinosaur.
My firs
> > But I never broke windows so badly I had to reinstall it!
>
> You didn't try very hard! I have broke almost every OS I have
> worked with- no harm in experimenting since that is how you learn
> - as long as you learn - and you have the time to set aside for
> reinstalling!
I have broken most
On Tuesday 01 March 2005 07:21 pm, Julie Sloan wrote:
> On Tuesday 01 March 2005 05:01 pm, Russ Kepler wrote:
> > As long as you don't invoke the dreaded emacs you're all right with me.
> > (There's something wrong with an editor that hauls around an eliza in
> > every instance).
>
> Ok. Would you
On Tuesday 01 March 2005 06:21 pm, Julie Sloan wrote:
> On Tuesday 01 March 2005 05:01 pm, Russ Kepler wrote:
> > On Tuesday 01 March 2005 01:54 pm, Julie Sloan wrote:
> > > On Tuesday 01 March 2005 03:17 pm, Duncan Anderson wrote:
> > > > Editing text files is particularly irritating because my fi
On Tuesday 01 March 2005 05:01 pm, Russ Kepler wrote:
> On Tuesday 01 March 2005 01:54 pm, Julie Sloan wrote:
> > On Tuesday 01 March 2005 03:17 pm, Duncan Anderson wrote:
> > > Editing text files is particularly irritating because my fingers
> > > operate in "vi" mode reflexively.
> >
> > I am loo
On Tue 3/1/2005 3:31 PM Lorin Pino wrote:
> On Tue, 2005-03-01 at 22:17 +0200, Duncan Anderson wrote:
>> Martell, Larry wrote:
>>
>> >On Monday 28 February 2005 09:26 pm, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> >>Julie Sloan wrote:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>Was it harder adapting to XP, or Linux?
>> >>
On Tue, 2005-03-01 at 22:17 +0200, Duncan Anderson wrote:
> Martell, Larry wrote:
>
> >On Monday 28 February 2005 09:26 pm, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:
> >
> >
> >>Julie Sloan wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>Was it harder adapting to XP, or Linux?
> >>
> >>
> >
> >It's worse coming the other way. I
Russ Kepler wrote:
On Tuesday 01 March 2005 01:54 pm, Julie Sloan wrote:
On Tuesday 01 March 2005 03:17 pm, Duncan Anderson wrote:
Editing text files is particularly irritating because my fingers operate
in "vi" mode reflexively.
I am looking forward to some day soon being able to sa
On Tuesday 01 March 2005 01:54 pm, Julie Sloan wrote:
> On Tuesday 01 March 2005 03:17 pm, Duncan Anderson wrote:
> > Editing text files is particularly irritating because my fingers operate
> > in "vi" mode reflexively.
>
> I am looking forward to some day soon being able to say the same thing. :
On Tuesday 01 March 2005 01:46 pm, Duncan Anderson wrote:
> I used to use the MKS toolkit version of vi on DOS as well as the Korn
> shell and awk, grep, sed, et al. It was one of the reasons I never
> learned DOS properly! vim is cool, though.
I don't think there's a 'proper' way to learn MS-DOS
On Tuesday 01 March 2005 03:17 pm, Duncan Anderson wrote:
>
> Editing text files is particularly irritating because my fingers operate
> in "vi" mode reflexively.
I am looking forward to some day soon being able to say the same thing. :)
--
Russ Kepler wrote:
On Tuesday 01 March 2005 01:17 pm, Duncan Anderson wrote:
What a pain! Editing text files is particularly
irritating because my fingers operate in "vi" mode reflexively.
Get vim for Windows. A decent vi emulator, heck, I use it under Mandrake and
on Sun instead of
On Tuesday 01 March 2005 01:17 pm, Duncan Anderson wrote:
> What a pain! Editing text files is particularly
> irritating because my fingers operate in "vi" mode reflexively.
Get vim for Windows. A decent vi emulator, heck, I use it under Mandrake and
on Sun instead of vi.
> I also find myse
Martell, Larry wrote:
On Monday 28 February 2005 09:26 pm, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:
Julie Sloan wrote:
Was it harder adapting to XP, or Linux?
It's worse coming the other way. I started on BSD unix version III running on
a DEC PDP-7 in the late 70's. For the next 26 years I worked e
Julie Sloan wrote:
On Tuesday 01 March 2005 12:16 pm, Kirschner, Mark wrote:
Julie Sloan claimed:
But I never broke windows so badly I had to reinstall it!
Julie
--
Um, you need to boot the computer for it to break ;-)
Maybe I never broke it or got so virus'd up I couldn't fix it myself be
et wrote:
and I want to appologize for posting that to Newbie. was
meant/thought to be on the OT list
my bad
---
[This E-mail was scanned for viruses]
Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft?
Go to http://www.mandrakestor
On Tuesday 01 March 2005 11:14 am, Julie Sloan wrote:
> On Tuesday 01 March 2005 12:16 pm, Kirschner, Mark wrote:
> > Julie Sloan claimed:
> >
> > But I never broke windows so badly I had to reinstall it!
> >
> > Julie
> > --
> >
> > Um, you need to boot the computer for it to break ;-)
>
> Maybe
On Tuesday 01 March 2005 12:16 pm, Kirschner, Mark wrote:
> Julie Sloan claimed:
>
> But I never broke windows so badly I had to reinstall it!
>
> Julie
> --
>
> Um, you need to boot the computer for it to break ;-)
Maybe I never broke it or got so virus'd up I couldn't fix it myself because
I d
Travis Crook wrote:
On Tue, 2005-03-01 at 06:50 -0500, Kenneth Rhodes wrote:
On Tue, 2005-03-01 at 23:45 +1300, SnapafunFrank wrote:
SnapafunFrank wrote:
Hope you got Mozilla handy 'cause I'm not sure if Firefox can handle
this site but have I got it easy for you
Go to this sit
> >
> > Very true - I had forgotten how *lost* I was when first started using the
> > computer. Now I'm lost if can't have access to it for a few days!
>
> !!!DAYS
>
> mhhmmmp. You're not as addicted as I am.
>
> Julie--
I didn't like to say hours!!! Which is the reality. I can cope
Julie Sloan claimed:
But I never broke windows so badly I had to reinstall it!
Julie
--
Um, you need to boot the computer for it to break ;-)
I think XP is the first version of Windows I've not broken to the point
of re-installing. 3.1, 3.11, 95, 98, ME, NT, 2000...can't count the
number of
On Tue, 2005-03-01 at 06:50 -0500, Kenneth Rhodes wrote:
> On Tue, 2005-03-01 at 23:45 +1300, SnapafunFrank wrote:
> > SnapafunFrank wrote:
>
> > > Hope you got Mozilla handy 'cause I'm not sure if Firefox can handle
> > > this site but have I got it easy for you
> > >
> > > Go to this site :
On Tuesday 01 March 2005 09:00 am, Julie Sloan wrote:
> On Tuesday 01 March 2005 03:30 am, riccardo wrote:
> > On Tuesday 01 March 2005 08:19 am, Julie Sloan referred:
> > >> handy, to have entire duplicate system
> >
> > ~ for example . . . have cron daemon, once-a-week, run script :-
>
> Thanks
On Tuesday 01 March 2005 07:59 am, Julie Sloan wrote:
> > Was it harder adapting to XP, or Linux?
>
> Linux was harder, no question about it.
Just shows how truly different peoples experiences can be. I started out in
computing in 1983 with an Atari 800Xl. Moved up to the Atari ST line around
1
Martell, Larry wrote:
Julie Sloan wrote:
On Tuesday 01 March 2005 03:28 am, l_duvall wrote:
As someone who once upon a time did full-time tech support for Windows 95
& 98, believe me, you can do as much damage in 95/98 as an ordinary user
as you can as su in Linux, but 95/98 requires a lot less eff
On Monday 28 February 2005 09:26 pm, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:
> Julie Sloan wrote:
> > On Monday 28 February 2005 12:06 pm, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:
> >>Now, what I would like to see sometime is changing from Windows 98 to
> >> XP compaired to changing from 98 to Linux...
> >
> > What about it?
Julie Sloan wrote:
>On Tuesday 01 March 2005 03:28 am, l_duvall wrote:
>> As someone who once upon a time did full-time tech support for Windows 95
>> & 98, believe me, you can do as much damage in 95/98 as an ordinary user
>> as you can as su in Linux, but 95/98 requires a lot less effort to do so
On Tuesday 01 March 2005 13:40, Pablo Ortuzar wrote:
> Rosemary,
>
> I assume you're using KDE. With konqueror, go here
>
> http://www.icon.co.za/~psheer/rute.pdf.bz2
>
> Left click on "download pdf" (upper left)
> A popup window will appear. Left click on "Save As".
> In your home folder, you wi
On Tuesday 01 March 2005 11:38, SnapafunFrank wrote:
> Rosemary McGillicuddy wrote:
(snip)
>
> Go to this site : http://rute.2038bug.com/index.html.gz [ note the *.gz
> bit - Mozilla can handle that - let me know if Firefox can please ] ...
>
> At the very top left of this page is this link..
> ht
On Tue, 2005-03-01 at 23:45 +1300, SnapafunFrank wrote:
> SnapafunFrank wrote:
> > Hope you got Mozilla handy 'cause I'm not sure if Firefox can handle
> > this site but have I got it easy for you
> >
> > Go to this site : http://rute.2038bug.com/index.html.gz [ note the
> > *.gz bit - Mozil
SnapafunFrank wrote:
Rosemary McGillicuddy wrote:
Hello listers,
Thanks to all who replied to my post. I'm sorry - I was pretty
unreasonable on reflection. I have been frustrated at one or two
things, and also on night duty, which does nothing for my tolerance!
I do aplogise for sounding of
Rosemary McGillicuddy wrote:
Hello listers,
Thanks to all who replied to my post. I'm sorry - I was pretty unreasonable
on reflection. I have been frustrated at one or two things, and also on
night duty, which does nothing for my tolerance! I do aplogise for sounding
off.
Just for interest
> On Tuesday 01 March 2005 03:28 am, l_duvall wrote:
>> >> Julie Sloan wrote:
>> >
>> > [...like changing file names -- do you know, in windows, you can't
>> > "move," that is to say, "drag and drop" a file with the .exe
>> extension?
>> > When you try, you end up with a shortcut to the original l
>
> You and me both. I think for windows power users to make the change is
> actually not very easy. The frustration level is so high when you knew
> your way around quite complex things and you are having to learn fairly
> basic ones.
>
> > Anyway thanks all. I'm not giving up.
>
> Good. Enj
On Tuesday 01 March 2005 03:52 am, Rosemary McGillicuddy wrote:
> > I think it is actualy harder changing from Windows to Linux, then it is
> > starting out fresh with Linux. You have to learn some new ways of doing
> > things. If you are starting out fresh, you don't have to "unlearn"
> > things.
On Tuesday 01 March 2005 03:30 am, riccardo wrote:
> On Tuesday 01 March 2005 08:19 am, Julie Sloan referred:
> >> handy, to have entire duplicate system
>
> ~ for example . . . have cron daemon, once-a-week, run script :-
>
Thanks riccardo, I will add this and your "run daily" script into that f
>
> I think it is actualy harder changing from Windows to Linux, then it is
> starting out fresh with Linux. You have to learn some new ways of doing
> things. If you are starting out fresh, you don't have to "unlearn"
> things. Most people have forgotten the learning process they went
> through w
>
> I've been where you are now Rosemary and I can tell you I did " go back
> to windows ", that is until I hit their first freeze at about 5minutes
> in wanting to format a simple word document.
>
> It then dawned on me that though Mandrake was not going along as easy as
> some of the stuff I was
On Tuesday 01 March 2005 03:28 am, l_duvall wrote:
> >> Julie Sloan wrote:
> >
> > [...like changing file names -- do you know, in windows, you can't
> > "move," that is to say, "drag and drop" a file with the .exe extension?
> > When you try, you end up with a shortcut to the original location.
On Tuesday 01 Mar 2005 00:41, Anne Wilson wrote:
> On Monday 28 Feb 2005 11:11, SnapafunFrank wrote:
> > Bottom line, use the apps that work in Linux for now and stick to
> > configuring one preferred app at a time. You get to learn Linux and end
> > up with the exact app you want.
> I remember th
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On Tuesday 01 Mar 2005 06:19, Rosemary McGillicuddy wrote:
> Hello listers,
>
> Thanks to all who replied to my post. I'm sorry - I was pretty
> unreasonable on reflection. I have been frustrated at one or two things,
> and also on night duty, whic
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On Tuesday 01 Mar 2005 07:59, Julie Sloan wrote:
>
> [...like changing file names -- do you know, in windows, you can't "move,"
> that is to say, "drag and drop" a file with the .exe extension? When you
> try, you end up with a shortcut to the origina
On Tuesday 01 March 2005 08:19 am, Julie Sloan referred:
>> handy, to have entire duplicate system
~ for example . . . have cron daemon, once-a-week, run script :-
__
.
#!/bin/sh
#
# use rsync to backup / to /dev/hdb6 on Sunday
#
mount -t reise
> On Monday 28 February 2005 09:26 pm, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:
>> Julie Sloan wrote:
>> > On Monday 28 February 2005 12:06 pm, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:
>> >>Now, what I would like to see sometime is changing from Windows 98 to
>> >> XP compaired to changing from 98 to Linux...
>> >
>> > What a
On Tuesday 01 March 2005 03:11 am, riccardo wrote:
> On Tuesday 01 March 2005 07:59 am, Julie Sloan wrote:
> > Which is why I'm on my fourth
> > reinstall.
>
> ___
>
> ~ maybe, it is handy, to have entire duplicate system, on a spare
> partition . . . a matter of moments, with RSYNC
>
Th
On Tuesday 01 March 2005 07:59 am, Julie Sloan wrote:
> Which is why I'm on my fourth
> reinstall.
___
~ maybe, it is handy, to have entire duplicate system, on a spare
partition . . . a matter of moments, with RSYNC
best rgds
On Monday 28 February 2005 09:26 pm, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:
> Julie Sloan wrote:
> > On Monday 28 February 2005 12:06 pm, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:
> >>Now, what I would like to see sometime is changing from Windows 98 to
> >> XP compaired to changing from 98 to Linux...
> >
> > What about it?
On Monday 28 February 2005 09:39 pm, Aron Smith wrote:
> On Monday 28 February 2005 06:16 pm, Julie Sloan wrote:
> > On Monday 28 February 2005 12:06 pm, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:
> > > Now, what I would like to see sometime is changing from Windows 98 to
> > > XP compaired to changing from 98 to
On Tuesday 01 March 2005 06:19 am, Rosemary McGillicuddy wrote:
> to use Kmail rather than ~
__
Kmail . . . one of the Best :)
best rgds
Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft?
Go to http://www.mandra
Hello listers,
Thanks to all who replied to my post. I'm sorry - I was pretty unreasonable
on reflection. I have been frustrated at one or two things, and also on
night duty, which does nothing for my tolerance! I do aplogise for sounding
off.
Just for interest I had no problems going fro
Julie Sloan wrote:
On Monday 28 February 2005 12:06 pm, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:
Now, what I would like to see sometime is changing from Windows 98 to XP
compaired to changing from 98 to Linux...
What about it?
I went from 98 to XP last summer, and learned my way around XP while I was
waiting
On Mon, 2005-02-28 at 20:05 -0600, Dennis Myers wrote:
> On Monday 28 February 2005 07:37 pm, Julie Sloan wrote:
> > On Monday 28 February 2005 05:32 am, Rosemary McGillicuddy wrote:
> > > Maybe I am being unecessarily negative about linux. But it does
> > > seem that one has to work inordin
On Monday 28 February 2005 06:16 pm, Julie Sloan wrote:
> On Monday 28 February 2005 12:06 pm, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:
> > Now, what I would like to see sometime is changing from Windows 98 to XP
> > compaired to changing from 98 to Linux...
>
> What about it?
>
> I went from 98 to XP last summe
On Monday 28 February 2005 12:06 pm, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:
>
>
>
> Now, what I would like to see sometime is changing from Windows 98 to XP
> compaired to changing from 98 to Linux...
>
What about it?
I went from 98 to XP last summer, and learned my way around XP while I was
waiting for
On Monday 28 February 2005 07:37 pm, Julie Sloan wrote:
> On Monday 28 February 2005 05:32 am, Rosemary McGillicuddy wrote:
> > Maybe I am being unecessarily negative about linux. But it does
> > seem that one has to work inordinately hard to achivee some basic
> > functions. I have revert
Rosemary McGillicuddy wrote:
Maybe I am being unecessarily negative about linux. But it does seem
that one has to work inordinately hard to achivee some basic functions. I
have reverted to Kmail simply because I can't get links to browser to open
from Tbird. It seems this may a Tbird
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On Monday 28 Feb 2005 17:06, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:
>
> I think it is actualy harder changing from Windows to Linux, then it is
> starting out fresh with Linux. You have to learn some new ways of doing
> things. If you are starting out fresh, you d
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On Monday 28 Feb 2005 11:11, SnapafunFrank wrote:
Bottom line, use the apps that work in Linux for now and stick to
configuring one preferred app at a time. You get to learn Linux and end
up with the exact app you want.
Coffee fix req
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On Monday 28 Feb 2005 11:11, SnapafunFrank wrote:
> Bottom line, use the apps that work in Linux for now and stick to
> configuring one preferred app at a time. You get to learn Linux and end
> up with the exact app you want.
>
> Coffee fix required me
Rosemary McGillicuddy wrote:
Maybe I am being unecessarily negative about linux. But it does seem
that one has to work inordinately hard to achivee some basic functions. I
have reverted to Kmail simply because I can't get links to browser to open
from Tbird. It seems this may a Tbird
Maybe I am being unecessarily negative about linux. But it does seem
that one has to work inordinately hard to achivee some basic functions. I
have reverted to Kmail simply because I can't get links to browser to open
from Tbird. It seems this may a Tbird problem rather than Mandrake
PS: I really should have said that the first resource mentioned below is
"excellent" instead of "pretty good" -- it hit the spot for me -- ymmv.
Randy Kramer
Randy Kramer wrote:
>
> Paul Kraus wrote:
> > Anyone know any good sources for information on learning to do everything in the
>command
Paul Kraus wrote:
> Anyone know any good sources for information on learning to do everything in the
>command line?
I'm starting a list here:
http://twiki.org/cgi-bin/view/Wikilearn/LinuxResources
I discovered the first item on the list just recently and think it is
pretty good -- it is not f
Ok I have a couple questions. I am running a 733mhz gateway solo laptop with 196mb. I
am using Enlightenment as my window mandager and that is it. No kde or gnome.
Questions
-=-=-=-=
Anyone know any good sources for information on learning to do everything in the
command line?
Any good docume
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